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1 The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 2:51 pm

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The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe (Part I)





Posted by Deus Nexus on May 25, 2013



The Original Hollywood Mind Control Slave


Reposted from: The Vigilant Citizen.

Marilyn Monroe is possibly the most iconic figure in American culture
and the most recognizable sex symbol of all times. However, behind
Monroe’s photogenic smile was a fragile individual who was exploited and
subjected to mind control by powerful handlers. The first part of this
two-part series will look at the hidden life of Marilyn, a Hollywood
Monarch slave.

Marilyn Monroe is the ultimate sex symbol, embodying everything that
Hollywood represents: glamor, glitz and sex-appeal. Her iconic sensual
blonde persona forever revolutionized the movie industry and, to this
day, is greatly influential in popular culture. While Marilyn represents
everything that is glamorous about Hollywood, the disturbing story of
her private life equally represents everything that is dark in
Hollywood. Marilyn was indeed manipulated by high level “mind doctors”
who controlled every aspect of her life and caused her to basically lose
her mind. Her death, at the young age of 36 is one of the first
“mysterious celebrity deaths” in popular culture. While many facts point
to a murder, it is still classified as a “probable suicide”.

While many biographers explain away Marilyn’s hardships with
“psychological issues”, piecing together facts about her life combined
with knowledge of the dark side of Hollywood reveals something a lot
darker: Marilyn Monroe was one of the first celebrities subjected to
Monarch mind control, a branch of the CIA’s MK Ultra program (for more
information on the subject, read my article entitled Origins and Techniques of Monarch Mind Control).
Through trauma and psychological programming, Monroe a became high
level puppet of the shadow elite, even became JFK’s Presidential Model.

When Monroe’s programming lost its effect and she started to break
down, some argue that she was “thrown off the freedom train”, an MK
ULTRA term for designating slaves that are killed when they are not
useful (and potentially dangerous) to their handlers.

The first part of this series of articles will look at the real life
and career of Monroe, an isolated girl whose great beauty became a true
curse.

Her Early Years




Norma Jeane as a teenager

Norma Jeane Mortenson had a difficult and unstable youth. She never
knew her father and her mother was mentally unstable and incapable of
taking care of her. In My Story, Monroe wrote that she recalled seeing
her mother “screaming and laughing” as she was forcibly taken to a State
Hospital.

At age 11, Norma Jeane was declared a ward of the state. She lived in
a total of 11 foster homes throughout her youth; when there was no
foster home available, she sometimes ended up at the Hollygrove
Orphanage in Los Angeles. As if moving from one foster home to another
wasn’t difficult enough, Norma Jeane recalled being treated harshly in
several of them. Even worse, she was abused in at least three of them.

For instance, at age 11, Norma Jeane was adopted by her mother’s best
friend Grace McKee and her new husband, Ervin Silliman “Doc” Goddard.
There, “Doc” repeatedly sexually assaulted her, which forced Norma Jeane
to move out. In another case, when she was in middle-school, Norma Jean
was sent to her great-aunt’s house in Compton, California. There, one
of her great-aunt’s sons abused her, forcing her, again, to move out.
Here is another account of abuse:

“She told of being whipped
by one foster mother for having touched ‘the bad part’ of her body.
Another more serious incident occurred when she was eight. One evening a
lodger she called Mr. Kimmel (Marilyn said later that this was not his
real name) asked her to come into his room and locked the door behind
her. He put his arms around her. She kicked and struggled. He did what
he wanted, telling her to be a good girl. (In a later interview Marilyn
stated that the abuse involved fondling).


When he let her out, he handed her a
coin and told her to buy herself an ice cream. She threw the coin in his
face and ran to tell her foster mother what happened, but the woman
wouldn’t listen.


‘Shame on you,’ her foster mother said. ‘Mr. Kimmel’s my star boarder.’

Norma Jean went to her room and cried all night.

Marilyn said she felt dirty and took
baths days after it happened to feel clean. Such repeated attempts to
feel clean through showers or baths are typical behavior for victims of
assault.


Marilyn said she began to stutter after
the incident and reverted to it at times of stress. When she told one
interviewer about the abuse, she began stuttering.


The evidence points to the fact that she
was an abused child whose early sexualization led to her inappropriate
behavior as an adult.


- Daily Mail, “The magic red sweater that turned ‘Norma Jeane, string bean’ into Marilyn Monroe”
Norma Jeane’s unstable and sometimes traumatic youth made her a
perfect candidate for Monarch mind control. Being a ward of the state,
she had no stable family.


“Some children live in foster homes,
or with adopted parents, or in orphanages, or with caretakers and
guardians. Because these children are at the mercy of the non-related
adults, these types of children frequently are sold to become
mind-controlled slaves of the intelligence agencies.”


- Fritz Springmeier, The Illuminati Formula to Create a Mind Control Slave
Norma Jeane’s background made her a prime target for Beta
Programming (also known as Kitten programming). Being an attractive and
charismatic woman looking to be part of show business, she also had the
perfect profile for it.

“Beta is the second Greek letter, and
it represents the sexual models and alters that the Programmers are
creating. The primitive part of the brain is involved in this type of
programming. An early abuse event will be used to anchor this
programming.”

- Ibid.

Contact with Occult Hollywood


Before becoming famous, Norma Jeane went by the name of Mona and
worked as a stripper at a Burlesque house in Los Angeles. There, she
came in contact with Anton LaVey, the man who would later found the
highly influential Church of Satan. According to Springmeier, LaVey was
an MK handler and Monroe became one of his “Kitten” slaves.

“Marilyn Monroe was an
orphan, and during her infancy the Illuminati/CIA programmed her to be a
Monarch slave. Before becoming an actress, while she was still a
stripper, she spent time with the founder of the Church of Satan Anton
LaVey. Victims of LaVey have pointed him out as a mind-control
programmer.”


- Ibid.
LaVey’s biography also mentions an “affair” with Monroe, which was probably more than that.

“When the carnival season
ended, LaVey would earn money by playing organ in Los Angeles area
burlesque houses, and he relates that it was during this time period
that he had a brief affair with a then-unknown Marilyn Monroe.”


- Magus Peter H. Gilmore, Anton Szandor LaVey: A Biographical Sketch


Around the same time period, LaVey was involved with another actress,
one that was known for being the “working man’s Marilyn Monroe”: Jayne
Mansfield. The relationship between the two was also described as an
“affair”, but the reality was a lot darker.

“Anton LaVey has been the
mind-control handler/programmer of a number of Hollywood actors &
actresses, including Jayne Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe, who both
serviced him as sexual slaves”.


- Anton Szandor LaVey, Whale.to


Marilyn Monroe and Jayne Mansfield had a lot in common. Both were
“blond bombshells” (neither were natural blondes) and are credited for
“sexualizing” Hollywood. Both were Playboy playmates, both had an
“affair” with Anton LaVey and both had an “affair” with Robert F.
Kennedy and John F. Kennedy (the “affair” was actually them being
Presidential Models). Finally, both died in their 30s.

A Star Living Like an Inmate


Another common point between Monroe and Mansfield is that they were
both part of the Blue Book Model Agency. It is there that Norma Jean
metamorphosed into the iconic Marilyn Monroe.




When Norma Jeane was recruited as a model, she had curly red hair.
This “girl next door” will soon get a Hollywood makeover and embody a
new persona named Marilyn Monroe.


Industry insiders convinced Norma Jeane to undergo aesthetic surgery,
to change her name to Marilyn Monroe and to change her hair color to
platinum blonde. Monroe’s sensual, “dumb blond” persona allowed her to
land roles in several movies which began a clear culture shift in
Hollywood.



In the movie “Gentlemen Prefer Blondes”, Marilyn adorns her trademark
platinum blonde “Hollywood” hairdo. In this movie, she plays the role
of a sensual yet materialistic woman that is not afraid of using her
charm to obtain what she wants. This type of character will be repeated
time and time again in popular culture.

Norma Jeane used Marilyn Monroe as a stage name for several years,
but in 1956, she accomplished a strange but symbolic move: She legally
changed her name to Marilyn Monroe. The change reflected many sad truths
about her personal life: In mind-control terms, the changing of her
name to Marilyn Monroe represents the suppression of her “core persona”
in order to only allow her programmed alter persona to exist. Marilyn
was only what “they” wanted her to be.

As several biographies have revealed, Marilyn had little to no
personal freedom. She had no contact with her family, and her handlers
isolated her in order to further control her and to avoid “real” people
from helping her to realize that she was being manipulated. The only
people that she was in contact with were her “psychologists” and her
handlers.

“Marilyn’s existence was not
of a rich person, but more like of an inmate. Marilyn was allowed to
have no personal life, outside of the dictates of the programmers and
her masters. The programmers and users bore down so hard on controlling
Marilyn that they repeatedly came close to driving her insane.”


- Springmeier, Op. Cit.
Marilyn was also constantly under high surveillance. Years after her
death, an incredible amount of surveillance equipment was found in one
of her homes.

“In 1972, actress Veronica
Hamel and her husband became the new owners of Marilyn’s Brentwood home.
They hired a contractor to replace the roof and remodel the house, and
the contractor discovered a sophisticated eavesdropping and telephone
tapping system that covered every room in the house. The components were
not commercially available in 1962, but were in the words of a retired
Justice Department official, “standard FBI issue.” This discovery lent
further support to claims of conspiracy theorists that Marilyn had been
under surveillance by the Kennedys and the Mafia. The new owners spent
$100,000 to remove the bugging devices from the house.”


- Source: IMDB
CONTINUE READING AT: The Vigilant Citizen.


Thanks to: http://deusnexus.wordpress.com



  

2 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 2:55 pm

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Under the Spell of Mind Doctors


In 1956, Marilyn converted to Judaism and married her third husband,
screenwriter Arthur Miller. At this point, the only people in Monroe’s
life were her husband and her acting teacher Lee Strasberg and her
psychiatrists Margaret Hohenberg, Marianne Kris and Ralph Greenson.

“Marilyn’s life was incredibly monotonous for her. Her
doctor’s appointments (I later learned these were appointments with
psychiatrists) and her acting lessons were virtually all she had to to
look forward to.”

- Lena Pepitone, Marilyn Monroe Confidential: An Intimate Account”
Lee
Strasberg, Monroe’s acting coach. According to Elia Kazan: “He carried
with him the aura of a prophet, a magician, a witch doctor, a
psychoanalyst and a feared father of a Jewish home.”

The ultimate proof that these individuals were the ONLY people in
Marilyn’s life is that they inherited most of her fortune. Lee Strasberg
alone inherited 75% of her estate while Dr. Kris obtained 25%.

“Marilyn began associating with Lee and his wife Paula
Strasberg from around 1955, very quickly they became a colossal
influence in Marilyn’s life, taking over almost every aspect of her very
being.

Many of Marilyn’s friends and colleagues watched this happen and felt
very uncomfortable about it but were powerless to do anything about it.
Whilst she was married to Arthur Miller, Miller had begun to voice
these concerns to Marilyn.

During the final year of her life there were signs that her faith in
the Strasbergs’ was weakening and that she no longer wanted them to have
the control. It has been said that she was in the process of dispensing
with their services – this was seen as another indicator that Marilyn
was intending to change her Will.”

- Loving Marilyn, Who Owns Marilyn’s Things?
After her death, Marilyn’s Will was contested due to her being under “undue influence” of her handlers.

“On 25th October 1962, the Los Angeles Times
reported that Marilyn Monroe’s Will was being contested by her long time
business manager Inez Melson. Miss Melson, who was not a beneficiary of
the Will claimed that Marilyn was under undue influence of either Lee
Strasberg or Dr Marianne Kris at the time the Will was made.”

- Ibid.
Another proof of the excessive control of “mind doctors” on Marilyn’s
life is the fact that her psychiatrist Ralph Greenson was the one who
found Monroe dead. Why was he at her house late at night? As we’ll see
in the next part of this series of articles, the circumstances of her
death are incredibly suspicious.

In short, as it is the case for most Monarch slaves, Marylin’s
handlers were in charge of every aspect of her life. Contact with family
members was totally forbidden.

“Although Marilyn Monroe had family, her doctors,
psychologists, and acting coaches isolated her from them. (…) Members of
the Hogan family, who lived in the Los Angeles area, had attempted to
make contact with Marilyn Monroe after she was famous, and their efforts
to connect with her were blocked.”

- Jennifer Jean Miller, “Was Phenergan Marilyn Monroe’s Silent
Killer, and Was She a Victim of Psychological Abuse, Medical Malpractice
and Wrongful Death?”
Disconnected from her family and with virtually no friends, Monroe
was visiting therapists almost daily. Were these visits actually
programming sessions? One thing is for sure, as the visits augmented in
frequency, Monroe became worse. One particularly hunting account is the
“Surgeon Story”, a text written by Monroe herself.

The Surgeon Story


The Surgeon Story is a text written in poem form by Monroe where she
describes being cut open by Lee Strasberg and her psychiatrist Margaret
Hohenberg. While some describe this story as Marilyn’s recollection of a
nightmare, other researchers claim that it is actually a description of
a mind control session.

Best finest surgeon—Strasberg
to cut me open which I don’t mind since Dr. H
has prepared me—given me anaesthetic
and has also diagnosed the case and
agrees with what has to be done—
an operation—to bring myself back to
life and to cure me of this terrible dis-ease
whatever the hell it is—(…)

Strasberg cuts me open after Dr. H gives me
anesthesia and tries in a medical way to comfort me –
everything in the room is WHITE in fact I can’t even see anyone just white objects -​

they cut me open – Strasberg with Hohenberg’s ass.
and there is absolutely nothing there—
Strasberg is
deeply disappointed but more even—
academically amazed
that he had made such a mistake. He
thought there was going
to be so much—more than he had ever
dreamed possible …
instead there was absolutely nothing—
devoid of
every human living feeling thing—
the only thing
that came out was so finely cut sawdust—like out of a raggedy ann doll—and the sawdust
spills
all over the floor & table and Dr. H is
puzzled
because suddenly she realizes that this is a
new type case. The patient … existing
of complete emptiness
Strasberg’s dreams & hopes for theater
are fallen.
Dr. H’s dreams and hopes for a permanent
psychiatric cure
is given up—Arthur is disappointed—
let down.
In this odd and disturbing story, Monroe describes being drugged and
cut open by her psychiatrists. She writes that she “didn’t mind the
operation” because she was “prepared”. Was she dissociating? There is
also mention of her seeing “only white” which might refer to sensory
deprivation – a method used in MK Ultra programming.

Once cut open, the doctors only found “finely cut sawdust” inside of
her “like out of a raggedy ann doll”. These are the typical words of an
MK slave who have completely lost touch with their true core
personality. Marilyn perceives herself as an “empty” doll.

According to Jason Kennedy, a member of Marilyn’s family, the
Surgeon’s Story describes Mind Control techniques such as sensory
deprivation and the administration of dissociative anesthetic drugs.

“Online publications have referred to the “Surgeon Story”
as a dream or nightmare. Even a musician, Annie Clark, was inspired to
write a song with the lyrics, “Best, finest surgeon/Come cut me open”,
because she believed Marilyn wrote the words due to her reverence of Lee
Strasberg during her studies with him.

Jason, on the other hand, likened it to a very real time in the life
of Marilyn Monroe, and her narrative of the experience, after being
subject to mind-control techniques and drugs at the hands of Lee
Strasberg and Dr. Margaret Hohenberg, when she underwent private
sessions with the duo in 1955 to help release blocks in her acting
techniques.

Their methodology consisted of having Marilyn Monroe delve into
painful childhood memories, they told her, to make her into a great
actress.

According to Jason’s research, the pair convinced Marilyn this was
all a part of “helping” her. He said she was confused from the start as
she documented the “Surgeon Story” details, correcting her own details
of the story from “pupil” or “student”, to coining herself the
“patient”.

“It was a mental operation,” Jason said. “She wasn’t physically cut, but mentally cut open.”

He said it was used to break her down and change her behavior.

“This had nothing to do with acting,” Jason continued. “It was pure
and simple extortion using mind control techniques. Also, ‘mind-control
drugs’ were only one aspect of the process of mind-control. Sensory
deprivation, dissociative anesthetic drugs, and psychic driving are part
of an overall process of mind-control.”

Lee Strasberg often referred to himself as doctor, including in his
1965 book, “Strasberg At The Actor’s Studio: Tape Recorded Sessions”.

- Ibid.
Whether or not this story actually happened, it nevertheless conveys
the inner-thoughts of a mind control slave who is powerless against her
handlers and their clinical attempts to program and modify her. Sadly,
other traumatic events caused by her handlers were all too real.

Traumatized by Her Handlers


In 1961, Dr. Kris convinced Marilyn to check in at Payne Withney
psychiatric ward. The events that ensued are shocking considering the
fact that Marilyn was a world-renowned movie star – but not surprising
considering the fact that she was a mind control slave. Here’s what
happened at the psychiatric ward:

“Kris had driven Marilyn to the sprawling, white-brick
New York Hospital—Weill Cornell Medical Center, overlooking the East
River at 68th Street. Swathed in a fur coat and using the name Faye
Miller, she signed the papers to admit herself, but she quickly found
she was being escorted not to a place where she could rest but to a
padded room in a locked psychiatric ward. The more she sobbed and begged
to be let out, banging on the steel doors, the more the psychiatric
staff believed she was indeed psychotic. She was threatened with a
straitjacket, and her clothes and purse were taken from her. She was
given a forced bath and put into a hospital gown.

On March 1 and 2, 1961, Marilyn wrote an extraordinary, six-page
letter to Dr. Greenson vividly describing her ordeal: “There was no
empathy at Payne-Whitney—it had a very bad effect—they asked me after
putting me in a ‘cell’ (I mean cement blocks and all) for very disturbed
depressed patients (except I felt I was in some kind of prison for a
crime I hadn’t committed. The inhumanity there I found archaic …
everything was under lock and key … the doors have windows so patients
can be visible all the time, also, the violence and markings still
remain on the walls from former patients.)”

(…)

A psychiatrist came in and gave her a physical exam, “including
examining the breast for lumps.” She objected, telling him that she’d
had a complete physical less than a month before, but that didn’t deter
him.

When she refused to cooperate with the staff, “two hefty men and two
hefty women” picked her up by all fours and carried her in the elevator
to the seventh floor of the hospital. (“I must say that at least they
had the decency to carry me face down.… I just wept quietly all the way
there,” she wrote.)

She was ordered to take another bath—her second since arriving—and
then the head administrator came in to question her. “He told me I was a
very, very sick girl and had been a very, very sick girl for many
years.”

Dr. Kris, who had promised to see her the day after her confinement,
failed to show up, and neither Lee Strasberg nor his wife, Paula, to
whom she finally managed to write, could get her released, as they were
not family.”

- Marilyn and Her Monsters, Vanity Fair
Another less publicized aspect of Monroe’s life is her two failed
pregnancies. While most biographies state that she suffered
miscarriages, some accounts hint that, in reality, the miscarriages were
provoked. Provoking miscarriages is a common practice in MK Ultra and,
reading Marilyn’s own words, it appears that her baby was taken away by
her handlers. In Pepitone’s book, Marilyn reportedly said about her
pregnancy:

“Don’t take my baby. So they took my baby from me… and I never saw it again.”

- Pepitone, Op. Cit.
The book basically states that Marilyn did not suffer a miscarriage. “They” took her baby away.

“After Marilyn had a healthy baby it was taken away from
her and she was never allowed to see it. It was very likely sacrificed.
Marilyn was too afraid to ask what they were going to do with it.”

- Springmeier, Op. Cit.
According to her biographies, Marilyn lost both her babies at
Polyclinic Hospital, the place where, according to Springmeier, she was
being programmed.

“The operation took place at Polyclinic Hospital where
Marilyn had lost her baby the year before…Marilyn said: “Going back to
that hospital’s a nightmare… Pain? What ‘pain?”. For her, the only pain
was in not having her own child”

- Pepitone, Op. Cit.

“Notice she always goes back to the Polyclinic Hospital. Monarch
victims have had to endure vast amounts of horrible torture. They learn
to survive by disassociation. When Marilyn says “What is pain?” she is
being accurate in reflecting her response to pain. She could not have
pain–because she would disassociate it. Certain alters are created to
take the pain, and the other alters don’t have to experience it.”

- Springmeier, Op. Cit.
In Conclusion


In the first part of this series of articles, we looked at the hidden
life of Marilyn Monroe – one that reveals the dark side of Hollywood.
Marilyn was not only thoroughly manipulated by her handlers, but
actually mistreated and traumatized in order to “keep her down” and
reinforce programming. The chilling facts mentioned above originate from
different sources but, when they are put together, they paint a sad,
yet crystal clear picture of the life of a Hollywood MK slave. Trauma,
abuse, isolation, mind control and constant surveillance were part of
Monroe’s daily life.

This kind of abuse however takes a severe toll on the victims and,
after a while, a total breakdown almost inevitably ensues. At that
point, MK slaves are usually “thrown off the freedom train”. Was this
Marilyn’s ultimate fate?

This concludes the first part of the two-part series on Marilyn
Monroe. Stay tuned for the second part which will describe her life as
JFK’s Presidential Model and the strange circumstances of her death. We
will also examine how she has become the symbol of Beta Programming in
today’s entertainment industry and how her story is being repeated again
and again.

Thanks to: http://vigilantcitizen.com



  

3 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 10:25 pm

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Its gets worse ..Anton LaVey's Church of Satan, admit .... actors & actresses, including Jayne Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe, who both serviced him as sexual slaves



"You must be the change you wish to see in the world".
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4 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 10:27 pm

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sorry I dint see you posted that .. sometime i only get half the tread ... for whatever weird reason



"You must be the change you wish to see in the world".
Mahatma Gandhi.

5 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 10:33 pm

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"You must be the change you wish to see in the world".
Mahatma Gandhi.

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Around 2:41 Rosana comes right and says MK Ultra very where in Hollywood



"You must be the change you wish to see in the world".
Mahatma Gandhi.

7 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 10:40 pm

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Roseanne is correct. We live in a culture of fear. And not many are brave enough to come forward and elicit change.



  

8 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 10:53 pm

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I put a buch of good ones for you to watch .. Lots of great info



"You must be the change you wish to see in the world".
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9 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 10:54 pm

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Mk ultra .. who was posting about the Mass childrens graves in Canada ..Keven Arnett I have some realty good info from 08 .. that most have no clue on //



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Oh yeah! You are up there. Is it public knowledge in Canada about all of Annets attempts? I would love to read it. Thanks



  

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Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:40 PM PDT
28 Mass graves of Indian Children in Canada...

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The Mohawk Nation News is reporting that 28 mass graves of many Indian Children have been discovered in Canada. Many of these are at residential schools. Some of the schools were government run, others were parochial, including Catholic...I wonder if the pope is aware of this?

Here's the press release dated April 10, 2008:

We are gathered today to publicly disclose the location of twenty eight mass graves of children who died in Indian Residential Schools across Canada, and to announce the formation of an independent, non-governmental inquiry into the death and disappearance of children in these schools.

We estimate that there are hundreds, and possibly thousands, of children buried in these grave sites alone.

The Catholic, Anglican and United Church, and the government of Canada, operated the schools and hospitals where these mass graves are located. We therefore hold these institutions and their officers legally responsible and liable for the deaths of these children.

We have no confidence that the very institutions of church and state that are responsible for these deaths can conduct any kind of impartial or real inquiry into them. Accordingly, as of April 15, 2008, we are establishing an independent, non governmental inquiry into the death and disappearance of Indian residential school children across Canada.

This inquiry shall be known as The International Human Rights Tribunal into Genocide in Canada (IHRTGC), and is established under the authority of the following hereditary chiefs, who shall serve as presiding judges of the Tribunal:

Hereditary Chief Kiapilano of the Squamish Nation

Chief Louis Daniels (Whispers Wind), Anishinabe Nation Chief Svnoyi Wohali (Night Eagle), Cherokee Nation

Lillian Shirt, Clan Mother, Cree Nation

Elder Ernie Sandy, Anishinabe (Ojibway) Nation

Hereditary Chief Steve Sampson, Chemainus Nation
Ambassador Chief Red Jacket of Turtle Island

An inquiry is scheduled to start today...

Mass Graves at former Indian Residential Schools and Hospitals across Canada

A. British Columbia

Port Alberni: Presbyterian- United Church school (1895-1973), now occupied by the Nuu-Chah-Nulth Tribal Council (NTC) office, Kitskuksis Road. Grave site is a series of sinkhole rows in hills 100 metres due west of the NTC building, in thick foliage, past an unused water pipeline. Children also interred at Tseshaht reserve cemetery, and in wooded gully east of Catholic cemetery on River Road.

Alert Bay: St. Michael’s Anglican school (1878-1975), situated on Cormorant Island offshore from Port McNeill. Presently building is used by Namgis First Nation. Site is an overgrown field adjacent to the building, and also under the foundations of the present new building, constructed during the 1960’s. Skeletons seen "between the walls".

Kuper Island: Catholic school (1890-1975), offshore from Chemainus. Land occupied by Penelakut Band. Former building is destroyed except for a staircase. Two grave sites: one immediately south of the former building, in a field containing a conventional cemetery; another at the west shoreline in a lagoon near the main dock.

Nanaimo Indian Hospital: Indian Affairs and United Church experimental facility (1942-1970) on Department of National Defense land. Buildings now destroyed. Grave sites are immediately east of former buildings on Fifth avenue, adjacent to and south of Malaspina College.

Mission: St. Mary’s Catholic school (1861-1984), adjacent to and north of Lougheed Highway and Fraser River Heritage Park. Original school buildings are destroyed, but many foundations are visible on the grounds of the Park.

In this area there are two grave sites: a) immediately adjacent to former girls’ dormitory and present cemetery for priests, and a larger mass grave in an artificial earthen mound, north of the cemetery among overgrown foliage and blackberry bushes, and b) east of the old school grounds, on the hilly slopes next to the field leading to the newer school building which is presently used by the Sto:lo First Nation. Hill site is 150 metres west of building.

North Vancouver: Squamish (1898-1959) and Sechelt (1912-1975) Catholic schools, buildings destroyed. Graves of children who died in these schools interred in the Squamish Band Cemetery, North Vancouver.

Sardis: Coqualeetza Methodist-United Church school (1889-1940), then experimental hospital run by federal government (1940-1969). Native burial site next to Sto:lo reserve and Little Mountain school, also possibly adjacent to former school-hospital building.

Cranbrook: St. Eugene Catholic school (1898-1970), recently converted into a tourist "resort" with federal funding, resulting in the covering-over of a mass burial site by a golf course in front of the building. Numerous grave sites are around and under this golf course.

Williams Lake: Catholic school (1890-1981), buildings destroyed but foundations intact, five miles south of city. Grave sites reported north of school grounds and under foundations of tunnel-like structure.

Meares Island (Tofino): Kakawis-Christie Catholic school (1898-1974). Buildings incorporated into Kakawis Healing Centre. Body storage room reported in basement, adjacent to burial grounds south of school.

Kamloops: Catholic school (1890-1978). Buildings intact. Mass grave south of school, adjacent to and amidst orchard. Numerous burials witnessed there.

Lytton: St. George’s Anglican school (1901-1979). Graves of students flogged to death, and others, reported under floorboards and next to playground.

Fraser Lake: Lejac Catholic school (1910-1976), buildings destroyed. Graves reported under old foundations and between the walls.

Alberta:

Edmonton: United Church school (1919-1960), presently site of the Poundmaker Lodge in St. Albert. Graves of children reported south of former school site, under thick hedge that runs north-south, adjacent to memorial marker.

Edmonton: Charles Camsell Hospital (1945-1967), building intact, experimental hospital run by Indian Affairs and United Church. Mass graves of children from hospital reported south of building, near staff garden.

Saddle Lake: Bluequills Catholic school (1898-1970), building intact, skeletons and skulls observed in basement furnace. Mass grave reported adjacent to school.

Hobbema: Ermineskin Catholic school (1916-1973), five intact skeletons observed in school furnace. Graves under former building foundations.

Manitoba:

Brandon: Methodist-United Church school (1895-1972). Building intact. Burials reported west of school building.

Portage La Prairie: Presbyterian- United Church school (1895-1950). Children buried at nearby Hillside Cemetery.

Norway House: Methodist-United Church school (1900-1974). "Very old" grave site next to former school building, demolished by United Church in 2004.

Ontario:

Thunder Bay: Lakehead Psychiatric Hospital, still in operation. Experimental centre. Women and children reported buried adjacent to hospital grounds.

Sioux Lookout: Pelican Lake Catholic school (1911-1973). Burials of children in mound near to school.

Kenora: Cecilia Jeffrey school, Presbyterian- United Church (1900-1966). Large burial mound east of former school.

Fort Albany: St. Anne’s Catholic school (1936-1964). Children killed in electric chair buried next to school.

Spanish: Catholic school (1883-1965). Numerous graves.

Brantford: Mohawk Institute, Anglican church (1850-1969), building intact. Series of graves in orchard behind school building, under rows of trees.

Sault Ste. Marie: Shingwauk Anglican school (1873-1969), some intact buildings. Several graves of children reported on grounds of old school.

Quebec:

Montreal: Allan Memorial Institute, McGill University, still in operation since opening in 1940. MKULTRA experimental centre. Mass grave of children killed there north of building, on southern slopes of Mount Royal behind stone wall.

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What!!? "Children killed in electric chair"? n/t (11+ / 0-)

The Dutch children's chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen (= “kids for kids”): is a world cultural treasure.

by lotlizard on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:46:26 PM PDT

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Lytton: St. George’s Anglican school (1901-1979). Graves of students flogged to death, and others, reported under floorboards and next to playground.

??????

omg!!!!!

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by cfk on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:47:46 PM PDT

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Should the Montreal Olympics have been boycotted? (2+ / 0-)

I mean, if those were, say, Tibetan kids...

The Dutch children's chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen (= “kids for kids”): is a world cultural treasure.

by lotlizard on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:02:41 PM PDT

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I wish I could say that this is unbelievable (10+ / 0-)

but unfortunately it is all too believable

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:49:14 PM PDT

Speechless. (9+ / 0-)

by la urracca on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:49:23 PM PDT

oh, my....no words (13+ / 0-)

Let all the truth be known. Let there be no more secrets. Let these children's stories be told.

"Let us develop a kind of dangerous unselfishness." Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. 4-3-68

by whitewidow on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:52:10 PM PDT

Let's hope this gets the notice and attention it (11+ / 0-)

deserves. Highly Recommended

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:54:55 PM PDT

How come we're only hearing about this now? (8+ / 0-)

by Imogen on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 08:59:50 PM PDT

because these are not the kind of stories CNN (8+ / 0-)

carries and as fast as this is slipping off the page it seems these are not the kind of stories that most here deem important either.

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:03:15 PM PDT

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Really I agree. How much do we hear about the (8+ / 0-)

mass murders committed by the US against the Native Americans anymore?

Where is the memorial to Indians in D.C.?

"The fact which the politician faces is merely that there is less honor among thieves than was supposed, and not the fact that they are thieves." Thoreau

by shigeru on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:07:39 PM PDT

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It is a history we are ashamed of and like (7+ / 0-)

slavery we just want it to go away. We have collective guilt so we don't want to look at it.

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:11:40 PM PDT

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IMHO that is what is at the root of most (1+ / 0-)
- not all, but most of the racism today. That is guilt that leads to fear that leads to resentment and hatred.

"The fact which the politician faces is merely that there is less honor among thieves than was supposed, and not the fact that they are thieves." Thoreau

by shigeru on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 11:04:52 PM PDT

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Well, we're not (2+ / 0-)

CBC reported this some time ago. The circumstances of the deaths are under investigation.

"The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation." - Pierre Trudeau

by fishhead on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:14:18 PM PDT

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Link? (7+ / 0-)

I'd like to read the original..Thanks.

by mariachi mama on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:06:55 PM PDT

here is the link, it's comming (5+ / 0-)

across on the front page as breaking news

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:16:39 PM PDT

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Found a link but something smells bad. (2+ / 0-)

http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/...

The Catholic, Anglican and United Church , and the government of Canada, operated the schools and hospitals where these mass graves are located. We therefore hold these institutions and their officers legally responsible and liable for the deaths of these children.

Today, we are releasing to this Tribunal and to the people of the world the enclosed information on the location of mass graves connected to Indian residential schools and hospitals in order to prevent the destruction of this crucial evidence by the Canadian government, the RCMP and the Anglican, Catholic and United Church of Canada.

Once these persons have been identified and detained, they will be tried and sentenced in indigenous courts of justice established by our Tribunal and under the authority of hereditary chiefs.

This is an indictment not a discovery or conviction, a press release not a news report. This unofficial, non governmental group has started their investigation by naming the guilty. Smells really bad.

by MajorFlaw on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:18:08 PM PDT

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the story on Mohawk Nation (3+ / 0-)

is different and says that the UN is involved

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:21:31 PM PDT

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The link to Mohawk Nation took me (2+ / 0-)

to a non specific cover page and not the named article.

If this is the part you were thinking of:

As a first step in this process, the IHRTGC will present this list of mass graves along with a statement to the United Nations in New York City on April 19, 2008. The IHRTGC will be asking the United Nations to declare these mass graves to be protected heritage sites, and will invite international human rights observers to monitor and assist its work.

That's not exactly UN involvement. Sounds more like petitioning.

by MajorFlaw on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:26:43 PM PDT

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the named article comes across the ticker (3+ / 0-)

as breaking news you have to wait a few seconds for it to start.

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:28:42 PM PDT

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It's not working for me however (2+ / 0-)

if you find a couple of paragraphs there which shed some light on the legitimacy of this inquiry do share.

by MajorFlaw on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:31:05 PM PDT

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For some reason I can't copy from the site (3+ / 0-)

but it does say they will ask the UN to be involved in the investigation, and then there will be trials, but since more than likely everyone, except fot the government and churches as institutions, are dead it seems more of a way to bring the story into the public eye.

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:36:58 PM PDT

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Asking the UN to get involved and (1+ / 0-)

the UN being involved are not the same thing.

At a public ceremony and press conference held today outside the colonial "Indian Affairs" building in downtown Vancouver, the Friends and Relatives of the Disappeared (FRD) released a list of twenty eight mass graves across Canada holding the remains of untold numbers of aboriginal children who died in Indian Residential Schools

The list was distributed today to the world media and to United Nations agencies, as the first act of the newly-formed International Human Rights Tribunal into Genocide in Canada (IHRTGC), a non-governmental body established by indigenous elders.

I have no way of knowing whether there is any substance to these accusations but there is no evidence offered:

. . . the IHRTGC would commence its investigations on April 15, 2008, the fourth Annual Aboriginal Holocaust Memorial Day. This inquiry will involve international human rights observers from Guatemala and Cyprus , and will convene aboriginal courts of justice where those persons and institutions responsible for the death and suffering of residential school children will be tried and sentenced.

They haven't even started the investigation yet.

by MajorFlaw on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:43:13 PM PDT

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i'll check again but i didn't see the sentenced (0+ / 0-)

part on mohawk nation

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:45:09 PM PDT

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It's on an internal page (1+ / 0-)

Right here.

by moiv on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:53:16 PM PDT

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thanks (0+ / 0-)

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:55:17 PM PDT

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This has been going on for a while now. (3+ / 0-)

This is big news in Indian Country. Kevin Annett has been in the news quite a bit. You should watch his film. It's quite long. Grab some popcorn. I know some of the people in the film and have heard the stories.

The church is resisting. Canada is ashamed. Does that make it any less so?

by WhiteBison on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:15:42 PM PDT

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Also contact the UNHCHR. (3+ / 0-)

The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights.

They state on their website that part of what they cover are "children's rights."

http://www2.ohchr.org/...

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:31:30 PM PDT

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Excellent. (2+ / 0-)

by Rex Manning on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:40:00 PM PDT

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If i read correctly they are asking them (5+ / 0-)

to be involved in the investigation

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:40:54 PM PDT

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Points for skepticism (2+ / 0-)

We should always demand the proof, even when the story seems to fit our preferred narrative.

Wish it didn't sound true.

We will see.

by DBunn on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:25:51 PM PDT

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"Behind stone wall" that's the proof claim... (1+ / 0-)

I guess we'll find out right? Their list seems pretty easy to follow up on, no?

by The R and The M on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:08:48 PM PDT

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To be clear (1+ / 0-)

"Behind the stone wall" and the rest of the diary, sounds very believable. I wish it didn't. Yes, the list can be followed up on, and it should be.

I'm on your side here. But we still need to go through the full due process.

by DBunn on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:40:50 PM PDT

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Do you really expect a government inquiry??? (3+ / 0-)

I mean seriously, these are indigenous people, the graves are at least 30 years old, why would the government do anything? Doesn't mean they should just that they won't. I know for a fact the indian schools in this country were horrors, I would not be surprised if the same graves existed here. I have no problem with a lack of additinal information about this, I have learned thru the years that the Native American version of history and events are much truer than anything we have told in the history books.

ROAD2DC ... IGTNT

by snackdoodle on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:46:59 PM PDT

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Wanna see their sources? (1+ / 0-)

- Eyewitness accounts from survivors of these institutions, catalogued in Hidden from History: The Canadian Holocaust (2nd ed., 2005) by Kevin Annett. Other accounts are from local residents. See www.hiddenfromhistory.org .

- Documents and other material from the Department of Indian Affairs RG 10 microfilm series on Indian Residential Schools in Koerner Library, University of B.C.

- Survey data and physical evidence obtained from grave sites in Port Alberni , Mission , and other locations.

That's it. Who knows what happened but they are basing their accusations of a holocaust on pretty slim evidence. There's something a bit too conclusory going on here.

by MajorFlaw on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:52:32 PM PDT

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I think you are needing to refresh your indian (1+ / 0-)

history, the real history not the propaganda put out how the indian schools were so grand.

ROAD2DC ... IGTNT

by snackdoodle on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:58:35 PM PDT

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You're debating a strawman. (1+ / 0-)

Nowhere do I buy into anyone's propaganda, that's the point. Tell me how this part is gonna work:

Once these persons have been identified and detained, they will be tried and sentenced in indigenous courts of justice established by our Tribunal and under the authority of hereditary chiefs.

An indigenous court is gonna indict, try, convict, sentence and imprison representatives of the Catholic and Anglican churches and the UN is gonna help them do that? Lemme know how that works out.

by MajorFlaw on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:05:59 PM PDT

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They are certainly within their right to do (0+ / 0-)

exactly that, whether any of those convicted will ever serve a sentence remains to be seen. But indict and try oh yes they can.

ROAD2DC ... IGTNT

by snackdoodle on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:08:41 PM PDT

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Um... (0+ / 0-)

What "right" would that be? They can do it much the same as we can indict shrub and Cheney and hold a mock trial for them at this website. Nice theater but no legitimacy. This accusation was pushed as a breaking news story and the closer I get the more it smells.

by MajorFlaw on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:12:03 PM PDT

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You need to follow the links. (1+ / 0-)

The hiddenfromhistory.org site is quite interesting. Please look at the entire Kevin Annett film. I watched this a few times last year. Its telling and quite heartbreaking.

These people aren't lying. The truth needs to be told. Nothing smells here, as far as I'm concerned.

by WhiteBison on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:23:23 PM PDT

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I believe it is the truth (2+ / 0-)

I have watched part of the film and it is heart breaking. I know for a fact Native children were routinely beaten at the schools for any infraction real or imagined. They didn't get proper medical treatment either. While I can't say children were murdered it not a stretch considering what I already know to be fact about the indian schools in this country.

ROAD2DC ... IGTNT

by snackdoodle on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:30:15 PM PDT

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I'm not suggesting that anyone is lying. (0+ / 0-)

There isn't enough substance to constitute a lie. But

While I can't say children were murdered it not a stretch considering what I already know to be fact about the indian schools in this country.

is not the way to make a case. Using words like "holocaust" and "genocide" doesn't help either. I have no interest in defending the schools nor either church but it's important when making such claims to stick to the facts and avoid sensationalism.

by MajorFlaw on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:36:52 PM PDT

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From a Native point of view. (0+ / 0-)

The impact of residential schools in Canada and boarding schools in the United States is generational. Almost every Native family in Canada and the United States can tell stories about negative treatment at these schools for the sake of "assimilation". This is an underlying cause for the poverty we experience, along with the alcoholism, despair, etc. As community members, we see this and have worked to overcome the impact on all our members. There are many who are still living who have experienced those schools. I'm one of those, having attended a boarding school in the late 60s.

The Canadian government is resisting the movement to resolve this situation, having either endorsed the schools as necessary vehicles for assimilation or actually funded and owned some of the institutions mentioned in the press release.

The churches are also resisting, stating the claims made by those involved are not true. This is an embarrassment for them.

A simple solution would be cooperation. The government of Canada and the various churches need to work with the tribes to identify the gravesites, dig up the remains and repatriate them to the various tribes involved. This would go a long way toward the healing of the generational impact those Native communities are experiencing.

Many detractors would say..."Why bring up the past? Why surface these wrongs? I didn't participate...why blame me?" Well, this isn't the issue. The issue is healing. For Native People this is not an issue of the past. It's a living and current issue that needs to be resolved.

Just my opinion, for what it's worth.

by WhiteBison on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 12:31:32 PM PDT

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WTF?! (8+ / 0-)

The Catholic, Anglican and United Church, and the government of Canada, operated the schools and hospitals where these mass graves are located.

I've been reading recently about the horrors of the Catholic Church,'Magdalene Laundry' in Ireland and the mass graves that were discovered there too.

Magdalene Asylum

The existence of the asylums was little thought of until, in 1993, an order of nuns in Dublin sold part of their convent to a real estate developer.

The remains of 155 inmates, who had been buried in unmarked graves on the property, were exhumed and, except for one body, cremated and reburied in a mass grave in Glasnevin Cemetery. This triggered a public scandal and became local and national news. In 1999 Mary Norris, Josephine McCarthy and Mary-Jo McDonagh, all asylum inmates, gave accounts of their treatment.

The 1998 Channel 4 documentary Sex in a Cold Climate interviewed former inmates of Magdalene Asylums who testified to continued sexual, psychological and physical abuse while being isolated from the outside world for an indefinite amount of time. The conditions of the convents and the treatment of the inmates was shown in the acclaimed film The Magdalene Sisters (2002), written and directed by Peter Mullan.

More from CBS News:

"The Magdalene Laundry"

Isolated incidents or an obvious f*cking pattern?! Time for new set of Nuremberg Trials or do these case have to wait until after the gangsters running our government are tried?

by Rex Manning on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:06:59 PM PDT

Historically, Native American' s had less value (9+ / 0-)

than dogs, so in schools operating during the 1800's, genocide of the Native American was part of America's shameful history. I am sick at heart over the death of so many women and children.

True shock and disbelief comes from the schools operating in the 1900's up to fairly current decades-

Sioux Lookout: Pelican Lake Catholic school (1911-1973). Burials of children in mound near to school.

Kenora: Cecilia Jeffrey school, Presbyterian- United Church (1900-1966). Large burial mound east of former school.

Fort Albany: St. Anne’s Catholic school (1936-1964). Children killed in electric chair buried next to school

This must not stand. This can not stand.

"Liberals feel unworthy of their possessions. Conservatives feel they deserve everything they've stolen." Mort Sahl

by maggiemae on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:07:57 PM PDT

Have forensic teams (5+ / 0-)

excavated any of the sites yet?

Think Tank. "A place where people are paid to think by the makers of tanks" Naomi Klein.

by ohcanada on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:11:40 PM PDT

They need to respectfully recover the remains (5+ / 0-)

DNA test were possible and try to return them to their family members for a proper burial at the government and church expense. You can be sure there are church records existing as well that could prove helpful in piecing the story together.

Remember too, these children belonged to a family who loved them, who suffered when they were taken away to school, family who probably never knew what happened to their loved one.

ROAD2DC ... IGTNT

by snackdoodle on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:53:40 PM PDT

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White Bison: can you provide a link for us? nt (6+ / 0-)

"Well, yeah, the Constitution is worth it if you can succeed." -Nancy Pelosi, 6/29/07.

by nailbender on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:13:55 PM PDT

try this (2+ / 0-)

link

this is pretty clearly the story he linked to. I don't know anything about this source.

"Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war" - John Adams

by esquimaux on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:18:16 PM PDT

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I posted a link down thread (2+ / 0-)

here it is. I don't think whitebison is with us

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:18:30 PM PDT

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I just got back... (9+ / 0-)

I found the link at Mohawk Nation News. This is breaking news. I'll keep looking for other sources. I imagine Indian Country Today will feature it soon. In Canada? Maybe in a Vancouver news source.

The Mohawk Nation News is widely read in Indian Country. I received the news via email from some of my friends today...emails are spreading across Indian Country as we speak.

By Indian Country I mean Indian reservations and communities across the country.

If I find more links, I'll post them.

by WhiteBison on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:28:02 PM PDT

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Do you know if it will be covered on (2+ / 0-)

Native America Calling?

by la urracca on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:33:04 PM PDT

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I don't know. (5+ / 0-)

Emails are spreading all over Indian Country. I imagine it will, eventually. I've just contacted Brenda Norrell at Censored News. Hopefully she'll pick up on this. I'm getting ready to check Indianz.com and other sites. If I find more links, I'll let everyone know.

by WhiteBison on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:42:11 PM PDT

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How about Native American Netroots? (2+ / 0-)

http://nativeamericannetroots.net/

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:44:08 PM PDT

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I think, however, this should go beyond the (4+ / 0-)

Native American and Canadian community.
It should go into the Traditional Media outlets if possible.

If this is not possible, all human rights and children's rights organizations should be alerted and asked to seek accountability.

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:45:20 PM PDT

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OMG. Something must be done. (4+ / 0-)

Get this news out there.

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:18:55 PM PDT

Will anyone follow the UN's response to this? (3+ / 0-)

I see they are presenting this to the UN on April 19th.

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:24:30 PM PDT

Here's another link. (6+ / 0-)

http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/

I hope this works.

by WhiteBison on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:35:00 PM PDT

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there seem to be questions about this (2+ / 0-)

being an indictment rather than a press release can you please give some clarification.

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:39:07 PM PDT

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The press release was sent out by various (7+ / 0-)

Indian tribes and tribal members on the 10th in Canada. This is just breaking news in Indian Country. We need to watch developments. Maybe Canadian media will squelch this. I don't know. Efforts are being made to work with the UN. I'm sure other groups will also pick up on this.

Canada, the US and Australia voted against Indigenous Rights at the UN last year...could this be one of the reasons why?

by WhiteBison on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:45:39 PM PDT

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Now what would make you think that? (0+ / 0-)

We know how honest this government is about everything, especially history.

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:51:48 PM PDT

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It seems to me that a serious concern, (3+ / 0-)

and one of the reasons for getting this out publically and quickly, is the valid fear that evidence will be destroyed.

by la urracca on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:54:40 PM PDT

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And why wouldn't the self serving bastards (4+ / 0-)

the three countries with the worst record for the abuse and genocide of indigenous peoples.

ROAD2DC ... IGTNT

by snackdoodle on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:55:40 PM PDT

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New Zealand did too (4+ / 0-)

Countries that have all benefitted enormously financially from policies of genocide, ethnicide and dispossession. Sickening.

"Hillary Clinton is the drunk at the party who is trying to convince everybody that she can drive home" - BAW

by From a distance on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:08:48 PM PDT

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The Kevin Annet story has been big news (5+ / 0-)

in Canada and across Indian Country for some time now. His film has won awards. The film is long, but worth watching.

It's located at the link above. Thanks.

by WhiteBison on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:52:02 PM PDT

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thanks, has democracy now been contacted (4+ / 0-)

Amy Goodman is pretty good at covering indigenious peoples stories

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:54:19 PM PDT

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Great idea ... got contact nos.? (0+ / 0-)

Please convey them here, if you can find the nos.

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:55:01 PM PDT

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here is the link (2+ / 0-)

for story ideas but i think either the diarist or someone who is much closer to the story should submit it

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:01:21 PM PDT

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I agree. (1+ / 0-)

Thank you for finding this info for the diarist or the one who will contact Democracy Now.

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:02:44 PM PDT

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glad to help (3+ / 0-)

it is long past due that the truth of the history of the americas is told to a wider audience.

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:05:41 PM PDT

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Thank you for contacting them. I'm sure you (1+ / 0-)

will get a good answer from them.

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:07:11 PM PDT

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Thanks to the one who will contact ... sorry. (1+ / 0-)

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:08:21 PM PDT

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Oops - I AM thanking you, Tanya! (0+ / 0-)

My bad if it sounded like I wasn't ... real tired, and this diary has shaken me.

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:09:21 PM PDT

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don't worry about it, I knew who you meant (1+ / 0-)

and i think we all feel the same way

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:13:15 PM PDT

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I just sent a note to Amy. Thanks. (3+ / 0-)

by WhiteBison on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:07:22 PM PDT

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Great. (1+ / 0-)

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:08:37 PM PDT

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no problem, I see you are very new here (1+ / 0-)

so don't get discouraged by the questions, skepticism, or lack of notice. You will develope a group of interested parties and for the most part the people are great. They do however like a lot of interaction with the diarist.

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:11:23 PM PDT

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i just thought about this could someone do a pod (1+ / 0-)

video and submit it to current TV they put a lot of viewer created stuff on.

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:59:34 PM PDT

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Could you contact her? (0+ / 0-)

It would make for an important story.

by WhiteBison on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:02:56 PM PDT

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Please get this story to the Pope. (3+ / 0-)

Send it to the Observer Mission of the Holy See to the United Nations in New York.

Contact page:

http://www.holyseemission.org/...

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:28:22 PM PDT

Oh my... (5+ / 0-)

can't even think let alone speak...

-7.62, -7.28 "We told the truth. We obeyed the law. We kept the peace." - Walter Mondale

by luckylizard on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:34:11 PM PDT

Pls write a followup diary after contacts made. (1+ / 0-)

We would like to know what promises will be made by these institutions and organizations and who will be held responsible.

Thank you.

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:42:16 PM PDT

I'm new to this board... (10+ / 0-)

This is my first diary. I'm a Native American from North Dakota and live on the Turtle Mountain Indian reservation. I'll do my best. Thanks.

by WhiteBison on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:47:09 PM PDT

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you're doing great and welcome (4+ / 0-)

I look forward to your contributions.

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

by Tanya on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:48:50 PM PDT

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You have made a valuable contribution, WhiteBison (3+ / 0-)

You have many friends here.

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:23:53 PM PDT

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Welcome to Kos. You are in friendly territory. (1+ / 0-)

One of the things I've liked about Obama is his inclusion of native peoples when he speaks of issues too long ignored. Makes me hopefull of finally cleaning up our disgraceful abuses which are too often ignored.

The Pope knew about abusive priests and helped hide them and their shameful behavior for years. So I wouldn't expect much response -- without public confrontation. He arrived in US yesterday. Will be at White House today. His itinerary is pretty public.

Is it possible to get any picketing at his staged events -- on such short notice? Plenty of news cameras will be trailing him. Getting picketers interviewed on camera could put US and maybe international pressure on him.

De fund + de bunk = de EXIT--->>>>>

by Neon Mama on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:37:17 PM PDT

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Write a press release and send it to all media (0+ / 0-)

outlets.

There are lists of newspapers, etc., where it can be sent.

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:47:12 PM PDT

I just linked this diary to the Front Page - (4+ / 0-)

Open Thread and Diary Rescue - http://www.dailykos.com/...

Comment is here: http://www.dailykos.com/...

by Blue Waters Run Deep on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:54:28 PM PDT

Thanks. Appreciated. (1+ / 0-)

by WhiteBison on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:09:26 PM PDT

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Holy crap! (2+ / 0-)

Are these very old graves, or are we talking recent homicides? I didn't even know there were any Cherokee that far north (I'm part Cherokee). I'm still mad about the Trail of Tears, and every other unprovoked indignity and privation visited upon Native Americans. In my opinion, it's not any better than slavery. I find it remarkable and telling that many of those who fight against indigenous rights are "strict constructionists" who don't mind that we routinely break Indian treaties with little concern.

Rabid imperialist at the fringe

by Arculi on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:24:48 PM PDT

Many of the graves are not that old... (2+ / 0-)

If you watch Kevin Annett's film at hiddenfromhistory.org you will see people talk of what happened. This is living history.

by WhiteBison on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:29:53 PM PDT

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Closing dates of institutions was even more (2+ / 0-)

shocking, as if the rest weren't enough.

I get really angry at all the "deniers" who try to say minority abuse has nothing to do with them because it happened before they were born/they didn't do it.

Remaining ignorant makes us all guilty. It has to stop happening. It must stop being hidden.

De fund + de bunk = de EXIT--->>>>>

by Neon Mama on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:43:03 PM PDT

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Unfreakin believable (2+ / 0-)

and yet somehow it sadly doesn't surprise me. Oh lord, what I don't understand is why the HELL hasn't this been discovered before now??? Oh. My. God...

A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death ~ Dr. King

by GoracleFan on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:31:35 PM PDT

Native People have been talking about this (5+ / 0-)

for a long time now. It's always hard to break Indian news into the dominant media market. In many ways we are invisible.

by WhiteBison on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:34:18 PM PDT

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And sadly even on those rare occasions (3+ / 0-)

when it does, it is quickly forgotten.

ROAD2DC ... IGTNT

by snackdoodle on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:35:30 PM PDT

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Well thanks for making this visible (3+ / 0-)

to us here at Kos and I hope that it will finally get into the mainstream media. Keith Olbermann reads and writes diaries here so I hope he happens to see your diary and put the info on Countdown.

I feel sick inside.

A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death ~ Dr. King

by GoracleFan on Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 10:39:44 PM PDT

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Many thanks (3+ / 0-)

for posting this story. I open each semester teaching my students the true history of the Indian schools.

May all those who died, or were kidnapped from their cultures be remembered.

Anthropologists for human diversity; opposing McCain perversity

by Denise Oliver Velez on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 04:24:42 AM PDT

Kevin Annett's film would be a great teaching (1+ / 0-)

tool for you to use in your classes.

by WhiteBison on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 11:54:08 AM PDT

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Do you know (0+ / 0-)

when it will be available?

The only film I've been able to use is a very old one, "Where the Spirit Lives".

Anthropologists for human diversity; opposing McCain perversity

by Denise Oliver Velez on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 01:33:12 PM PDT

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It is available. (1+ / 0-)

The information can be found at www.hiddenfromhistory.org. It can be veiwed in its entirety there also. Thanks.

More and more I'm a desparing optimist.

by WhiteBison on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 07:55:50 PM PDT

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Thank you n/t (0+ / 0-)

Anthropologists for human diversity; opposing McCain perversity

by Denise Oliver Velez on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 03:13:37 AM PDT

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18 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 11:10 pm

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Ill be damned... called the Sandy Hook Release. YIKES!!!



  

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Mass graves found in Canada linked to MKULTRA program
At least 28 mass graves containing the remains of indigenous children who died in the 'care' of religious and government institutions have been discovered in Canada, prompting calls for an independent inquiry from First Nation leaders across the country. One of the sites is the notorious Allan Memorial Institute at McGill University, where Donald E Cameron conducted research as part of the MKULTRA program including LSD experiments and 'electroconvulsive therapy at 30 to 40 times the normal power' (Wikipedia).

Montreal: Allan Memorial Institute, McGill University, still in operation since opening in 1940. MKULTRA experimental centre. Mass grave of children killed there north of building, on southern slopes of Mount Royal behind stone wall.

Although some of the horrors of this program are already well-known, these revelations indicate that there is much, much more that remains classified: this information has come to light only through archaeological investigation, and it will be interesting to see whether the First Nations are successful in their quest for an independent inquiry into North America's genocidal (recent) past.



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20 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 11:12 pm

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Ms skyz how far do you want to go down this hole... LOL i i was down this one for 5 years .. came up air and back down for 5 more years



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21 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 11:20 pm

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As deep as you want to go is as deep as you can take us. I have a forum for Annet also. I know that my gut tells me he is a good guy... but I also have posted the stuff on him that says he is also Illuminati.



  

22 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 11:25 pm

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Ya .. i cant lie i have been sitting on the fence for while with dude .. Just watching in the back grown .. There was a huge push for Indians called Idol no more here in Canada ..fucking George sorrows putting up all the funds for the movement behind the seen from what I'm reading even named it LOL ..



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23 The Globalist Hand Behind Idle No More on Sat May 25, 2013 11:28 pm

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"You must be the change you wish to see in the world".
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24 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 11:37 pm

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The real scary read is the island that's in china filled with 1000 cages , were this MK ultra and sex slave . ect ect still are being programed .. you think 3 million kids go missing in just the U S .. ppl realty think it just that nanny whachos ..come on I will get you the link . You can see they are used also for T V stars and POP stars to .. This goes back as far as Ben Franklin being part of the Hell fire club , were there was child rap ect .. I will post link.. every wonder how Barbra bush is teh Grand daughter of Alister Crowley



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25 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 11:42 pm

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A Mason, Benjamin Franklin's links to occult secret societies have long been known. In the clip below, the History Channel talks about his involvement in the Hellfire Club, a secret society that conducted black masses and orgies.

These bizarre, occult practices are still going on today in secret societies like the Bohemian club (Alex Jones infiltrated the Bohemian Grove and caught one of their rituals on tape -- click here to go see the video).

Truth is certainly stranger than fiction. The Hellfire Club was no ordinary club. Located deep beneath the disguise of an innocent looking church in England, members of the Hellfire Club descended hundreds of feet deep into the earth; into a series of excavated tunnels, rooms and caverns; where members fornicated with prostitutes; and occult sacrifices were offered to Satan. God only knows what evils took place down there; but the Franklin Boys Town Cover-up reveals what's happening today.

Males prostitutes and whores are commonplace at Bohemian Grove and Skull and Bones island. Just as Ben Franklin was an occultist devoted to Satan, so also are George Bush Sr. and Jr., John Kerry, Henry Kissinger, and other puppets today. British Prime-minister, Winston Churchill, was a druid witch.

The very term "Hellfire Club" is a mockery of the Scriptures. This is equivalent to the reprobates who nicknamed Las Vegas, "Sin City." How dare sinful men shake their fists in God's face and challenge Him. Americans may trust in goods or greed; but we certainly do NOT trust in the God of the Bible. We spit on Him as a nation.

The elaborate labyrinth of passages in Franklin's secret society were fashioned in such a manner that it appeared as if one were descending into Hell; hence the term, "Hellfire Club." The members of the Hellfire Club were evil and are no doubt burning in the very flames that they scorned and sinfully made light of.

Authorities were shocked on February 11, 1998 when workmen restoring Benjamin Franklin's London home dug up the remains of six children and four adults hidden below the home. Creepy huh? Most likely, only God and the dead know the truth of what really happened.



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26 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 11:43 pm

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No way!!!
She is? Whoa! Now Crowley.. interesting man. I did much research on him when I was learning as a teen. This really puts thing into perspective. wow



  

27 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 11:45 pm

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What's your view on religion Peak? Do you believe in God?



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28 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 11:49 pm

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I have tons On Crowley
spent 3 years just on him .. insane stuff

Few people understand that one of the most notorious individuals in British history may have contributed to the lineage of our current president. Aleister Crowley, a.k.a., "The Great Beast 666" -- the infamous practitioner of "sex magick" whose motto was "Do What Thou Wilt" -- came to know a great many remarkable people, including the maternal grandmother of George W. Bush. "Know," in this case, may be taken in the Biblical sense. Evidence points to the disturbing possibility that he was the true father of Barbara Bush, the former First Lady and mother to George W. Bush.

The story may seem difficult to believe at first, until one learns more about the social inter-relations that tied together these unlikely parties. Specifically, we must focus on a fascinating woman named Pauline Pierce, born Pauline Robinson -- whose third child was named Barbara.

Most sources divulge little about this woman. We learn more about her husband Marvin Pierce, the president of the McCall Corporation, which published McCall's magazine and Redbook. He married Pauline, a beautiful young socialite, in 1919. Their first child, Martha, was born the next year; the second, James, was born in 1921. At this time, Aleister Crowley inhabited what must have seemed a very different world, as he embarked upon the great communal experiment of the Abbey of Thelema in Italy.
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http://www.whale.to/c/george.html



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29 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 11:50 pm

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No religion .. Ms rose . G O D = gun oil drugs ... jewish invention , just my thoughts



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30 Re: The Hidden Life of Marilyn Monroe on Sat May 25, 2013 11:51 pm

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anything man made Is not of so called GOD .. that's how i look at it



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