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Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'
Biblical scholars will be appearing at the 'Covert Messiah' Conference at Conway Hall in London on the 19th of October to present this controversial discovery to the British public.


Jesus Christ: completely constructed from other stories for an ancient Roman propaganda campaign?
[Jesus Christ] may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources.
London (PRWEB UK) 8 October 2013
American Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill will be appearing before the British public for the first time in London on the 19th of October to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to Atwill, that the New Testament was written by first-century Roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of Jesus Christ. His presentation will be part of a one-day symposium entitled "Covert Messiah" at Conway Hall in Holborn (full details can be found at http://www.covertmessiah.com).
Although to many scholars his theory seems outlandish, and is sure to upset some believers, Atwill regards his evidence as conclusive and is confident its acceptance is only a matter of time. "I present my work with some ambivalence, as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm," he acknowledges, "but this is important for our culture. Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people."
Atwill asserts that Christianity did not really begin as a religion, but a sophisticated government project, a kind of propaganda exercise used to pacify the subjects of the Roman Empire. "Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century," he explains. "When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare. They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system. That's when the 'peaceful' Messiah story was invented. Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to 'give onto Caesar' and pay their taxes to Rome."
Was Jesus based on a real person from history? "The short answer is no," Atwill insists, "in fact he may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources. Once those sources are all laid bare, there's simply nothing left."
Atwill's most intriguing discovery came to him while he was studying "Wars of the Jews" by Josephus [the only surviving first-person historical account of first-century Judea] alongside the New Testament. "I started to notice a sequence of parallels between the two texts," he recounts. "Although it's been recognised by Christian scholars for centuries that the prophesies of Jesus appear to be fulfilled by what Josephus wrote about in the First Jewish-Roman war, I was seeing dozens more. What seems to have eluded many scholars is that the sequence of events and locations of Jesus ministry are more or less the same as the sequence of events and locations of the military campaign of [Emperor] Titus Flavius as described by Josephus. This is clear evidence of a deliberately constructed pattern. The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar."
How could this go unnoticed in the most scrutinised books of all time? "Many of the parallels are conceptual or poetic, so they aren't all immediately obvious. After all, the authors did not want the average believer to see what they were doing, but they did want the alert reader to see it. An educated Roman in the ruling class would probably have recognised the literary game being played." Atwill maintains he can demonstrate that "the Roman Caesars left us a kind of puzzle literature that was meant to be solved by future generations, and the solution to that puzzle is 'We invented Jesus Christ, and we're proud of it.'"
Is this the beginning of the end of Christianity? "Probably not," grants Atwill, "but what my work has done is give permission to many of those ready to leave the religion to make a clean break. We've got the evidence now to show exactly where the story of Jesus came from. Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history. To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East."
Atwill encourages skeptics to challenge him at Conway Hall, where after the presentations there is likely to be a lively Q&A session. Joining Mr.Atwill will be fellow scholar Kenneth Humphreys, author of the book "Jesus Never Existed."
Further information can be found at http://www.covertmessiah.com.
About Joseph Atwill: Joseph Atwill is the author of the best-selling book "Caesar's Messiah" and its upcoming sequel "The Single Strand."


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American Bible scholar claims ancient 'confessions' prove story of Jesus Christ was entirely fabricated by Roman aristocrats

  • Joseph Atwill says Romans 'used Christ as propaganda to pacify subjects'
  • Made 'discovery' while reading only surviving account of 1st-century Judea
  • Claims dozens of hidden parallels between Emperor TItus Flavius and Jesus
  • He said: 'Biography of Jesus is constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories'
  • The claims were dismissed by bible academic James Crossley, who compared Mr Atwill's work to that of author Dan Brown

By Simon Tomlinson and William Turvill
PUBLISHED: 09:56 EST, 9 October 2013 | UPDATED: 04:49 EST, 10 October 2013





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An American scholar claims to have made a controversial discovery that proves the entire story of Jesus was made up by Roman aristocrats.
Joseph Atwill asserts that Christianity did not start as a religion, but was instead created as a sophisticated propaganda tool to pacify subjects of the Roman Empire.
He says he noticed a pattern forming when he was studying the only surviving account of first-century Judea, which he claims contains dozens of parallels between the life of a Roman emperor and that of Jesus in the New Testament.




Is Jesus really a myth? A Bible scholar claims he has uncovered new evidence that proves the Romans invented the entire life story of Christ






Eureka moment: Joseph Atwill, above left, says he made his discovery while studying War Of The Jews by Josephus, which he says contains dozens of parallels between Jesus and Roman Emperor Titus Flavius
Mr Atwill argues that these ancient 'confessions' provide 'clear evidence' that the biography of Jesus is 'actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar'.
Mr Atwill accepts that his theory will upset some believers but is confident that it will be accepted in good time.
 
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But bible academic Professor James Crossley, from the University of Sheffield, compared Mr Atwill's theory to a Dan Brown fiction book.

He told Mail Online: 'These types of theories are very common outside the academic world and are usually reserved for sensationalist literature.


He also suggested the theories are not taken seriously by experts.

Mr Crossley said: 'People do debate about how much we can know about Jesus, but the idea that Romans invented stories about Jesus is outside of the academic world.'

He added that this sort of theory can be 'irritating' to religion academics.
On his theory, Mr Atwill said: 'I present my work with some ambivalence as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm, but this is important for our culture.
'Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods.
'They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people.'


The Last Supper by Leonardo da Vinci: Atwill, who will be presenting his findings at a talk in London later this month, said the Romans turned to subtler ways of keeping order when heavy-handed tactics failed
Atwill, who will be presenting his findings at a talk in London later this month, said the Romans turned to subtler ways of keeping order when heavy-handed tactics failed.
He said: 'Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century.
'When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare.
'They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system.
'That's when the "peaceful" Messiah story was invented.
'Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to "give onto Caesar" and pay their taxes to Rome.'


Law and order: Scholar Joseph Atwill asserts that Christianity did not start as a religion, but was instead created as a sophisticated propaganda tool to pacify subjects of the Roman Empire
'Once those sources are all laid bare, there's simply nothing left,' he added.
He says he stumbled upon his discovery while studying War of the Jews by Josephus - the only remain first-person account of first-century Judea - alongside the New Testament.
He said: 'I started to notice a sequence of parallels between the two texts.

'What seems to have eluded many scholars is that the sequence of events and locations of Jesus ministry are more or less the same as the sequence of events and locations of the military campaign of [Emperor] Titus Flavius as described by Josephus'
                                              Joseph Atwill

'Although it's been recognised by Christian scholars for centuries that the prophesies of Jesus appear to be fulfilled by what Josephus wrote about in the First Jewish-Roman war, I was seeing dozens more.
'What seems to have eluded many scholars is that the sequence of events and locations of Jesus ministry are more or less the same as the sequence of events and locations of the military campaign of [Emperor] Titus Flavius as described by Josephus.'
However, according to Encyclopaedia Britannica, Titus Flavius was born in 39 AD and died in 81 AD.

Estimates suggest Jesus died before 39 AD – 30 AD according to the encyclopaedia.

This was a number of years prior to Titus Flavius’s military campaign.


Mr Atwill continued: 'This is clear evidence of a deliberately constructed pattern.
'The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar.'
Atwill said the clues had gone unnoticed all this time because they are coneptual or poetic.
This, he says, was designed to prevent the average believer from becoming aware of what was happening.
They did, however, want the alert reader to cotton on.



Christ Appearing to Mary Magdalene by Titian: Mr Atwill accepts that his theory will upset some believers but is confident that it will be accepted in good time




He adds: 'An educated Roman in the ruling class would probably have recognised the literary game being played.'
Atwill maintains he can demonstrate that 'the Roman Caesars left us a kind of puzzle literature that was meant to be solved by future generations, and that the solution to that puzzle is "We invented Jesus Christ and we're proud of it".'

Atwill does not believe that this is the end of Christianity, but hopes his work will give half-believers a reason to 'make a clean break'.
'We've got the evidence now to show exactly where the story of Jesus came from,' he says.
JESUS, TITUS AND THE REVOLT

Roman general Pompey conquered Jerusalem in 63 BC.
Estimates suggest Jesus was born between 6-4 BC, and died around 30 AD.
Roman emperor Titus Flavius was born in 39 AD and died in 81 AD.
The first Jewish revolt occurred between 66-70 AD, the first in a long series of clashes up until 135 AD.

'Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history.
'To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East.'
Atwill will be giving a presentation on his findings entitled Covert Messiah at Conway Hall in Holborn, London, on October 19, where he is encouraging sceptics to challenge his theory, according to a release published on PRWeb.


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MartyM


Well talk about 'stirring the pot'... The particular 'Story' that anyone chooses to believe, as a basis for their 'Religion' is for the most part irrelevent (IMO). Be it God, Budda, Allah or whoever. I think when the TRUTH is finally uncovered, we will find out that we really are just one family and all from the same beginnings, long before anyone has imagined. It is difficult to face that things we have come to believe in are based on false and sometimes deliberately contrived information, but in doing so, we grow and learn and hopefully become better for it. I think we need to move beyond the idea that we all have to think, do and believe the same things. We are indeviduals, yet we are all One, even with creation and the creator... Just my thoughts on it. :) 


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Well I still believe in Jesus Christ and God, it's religion that doesn't wash with me!

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With U Nannee, it's about personal Relationship with "Jesus Christ and God", practicing Presence via Spirit, not about religion at all... imo, of course :)

NanneeRose


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Yep that's my opinion too 7FM!

PurpleSkyz


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LOL sorry saw this on facebook and just had to post it here. :)


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Hahahahahahahahaahaha well opinions always change based on new information! I still believe in God and Jesus that never changed, just can't stand the religious cults/churches that use them for their own agendas!

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Historical verification of the man Jesus, aka Yeshua ben Joseph (among other names), and his life is more prolific from varied sources than for just about any other historic figure, including first hand witness accounts. The impact of his life, death, & resurrection upon history, and more importantly as an example to all mankind, is both epic and monumental. Prophetic fulfillment by him is also significant validation for WHo HE IS. He stated he was the firstborn of many brothers and sisters, meaning same in a spiritual family sense, imo, as each can choose adoption by choice and belief into His family. For the Roman aristocrats to claim "invention" of Him (via Atwill) to further their agenda seems absolutely ludicrous and most pompous to me.

Discovered real life "Indiana Jones" devoted to scientific discovery of Biblical events and Truth was chosen, specifically guided and empowered to assist in validation of Noah's Ark, Sodom and Gomorrah, Israelites Red Sea crossing, Egyptian army destruction, & MORE!! His most impressive discovery and how he was guided to it and Ark of the Covenant is quite fascinating and not commonly known- http://www.covenantkeepers.co.uk/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGLPADW_kUw

Perhaps this can assist your discovery process regarding the man, Jesus, aka THe Christ. It is indeed "OK to change [one's] opinion based on new information", and I am constantly learning & growing, with this forum providing assistance in my journey, for which I'm most thankful. sunny 

Blessings 2 ALL Truth seekers...

PurpleSkyz


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I believe that Jesus lived also. The RH- blood type comes into play here too. The Shroud was typed as A-.

I hope ALL understand that I like to post controversial threads to invoke discussion and not because I am demonic. This week several have inferred that I am not of the light. That is not truth. I am both Light and Dark as we all are.


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think You'll find the chromosome info shared in above links quite insightful also. Life in in deed in the blood, where much is revealed....

I know you're not demonic, Prpl- can tell by Heart intent I see; sorry others perhaps cannot see that U R in deed "of the light"; "both Light and Dark as we all are "- if you so choose, of course.  

PurpleSkyz


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Thanks 7fm!

Much appreciated all ways.

I also want to point out that this blog's content covers both. So... when I post this stuff it is relevant to the archives here at Out Of Mind. I see this blog as a virtual library of how far ALL have traveled the last 2 years. What an amazing journey we are sharing together. 

So hope that others get that too.


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Well purps, I always knew there was a lil' devil in there somewhere... hehehe:affraid: 
But that of course is just one of the reasons we love ya.  


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LOL Marty.... HUGZ

: vil frank:


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