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Out Of Mind » VOICES CARRY ~ HEAVY DISCERNMENT REQUIRED - QUESTION EVERYTHING » ANNA VON REITZ » arnie, the old dumb guy responds to Judge Anna, the grandmother.

arnie, the old dumb guy responds to Judge Anna, the grandmother.

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arnie, the old dumb guy responds to Judge Anna, the grandmother.

Posted on December 29, 2015 by arnierosner
On Dec 24, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Anna von Reitz wrote:
Arnie, I have already told you that I am not an idealist. I am a realist. I don’t think that people are infallible and I don’t expect that they “should” be. I expect that they are going to make plenty of mistakes, be stupid, be careless, be lazy, be selfish, and be scared when they are faced with criminality on the scale we’ve exposed.
Thank you for the courtesy of a response. The decision to be a realist is obviously yours. And I think you recognize I don’t share that description. In fact, I consider it to be an excuse. An excuse to escape from the true reality in which we really live. And that would be contradictory to the illusion created by those who live in the reality of de facto.
You’re certainly entitled to your view of the situation, but I can demonstrate positively from my own observations and research, that 100% of those public servants I have engaged, have all been hiding from revealing the fact that they know the truth. As evidence, see some of the recorded conversations at the link below:
So what about the oath of office?
I don’t know where you come from, what your background is, whether or not you ever served in the Armed Services, or anything else much about you beyond the fact that you have sponsored a blog and been interested in finding out the truth. If you were in the Armed Services, I don’t know what “generation” you served in. For all I know, you are a WWII vet (there are still a few) or Korea (also a few) or pre-Vietnam. If so, that would explain a lot about your assumptions and your gung-ho judgemental attitude.
all that is needed to be known about my background is that I am an American. As for my “judgmental” attitude; that would be an effort on your part to categorize me so you could set me up in an attempt to undermine my credibility by applying some principles in which you seem to be expert…
Saul Alinsky – Hillary Clinton’s 1969 Thesis
Those of us who went through the meat-grinding, mind-bending misery of Vietnam have on average a different attitude because we got to see a side of the “government” the guys who went before and those who stayed civilian or stateside during the “conflict” never knew.
It’s time you got a clue.
It just so happens, totally by coincidence, that we have a special Christmas Message for American Veterans in answer to the questions many of them have been asking. It also puts it up your backside, too.
Part of my “judgmental attitude,” causes me to reflect on the manner in which you tend to describe things. And one thing in which I do not agree is to harbor expectations of failure.
While it’s true we are what we are and who we are, it’s a matter of choice for people to violate the very principles on which this country was founded… truth, honor, responsibility.
So my point is that anyone that takes people off the hook for lack of responsibility, and selling out their countrymen, which in my view is most definitely an act of treason. And it is my right, as an American, to call them the way I see them. on the other hand, judge and, your penchant to mitigate the crimes of those who have deliberately made the decision to commit them, marks you as a sympathizer of our enemies. In the strictness of interpretations, that would make you a traitor… Might that be the reason you’re always attempting to turn the other cheek to those who have abused the trust of Americans?
I don’t expect people to be perfect. I don’t expect them to know everything. I don’t demand that they believe anything. I don’t go around shouting “treason!” every other breath. I want to know who my Enemies really are for fear of being mistaken and shooting my friends.
in contrast, my expectations of people being paid to do a professional job are very clear. I do expect perfection. And I call treason where I see. Perhaps it would do you good to look closer in the mirror at the way you conduct yourself.
Your whole “shoot first and ask questions later” response disturbs me, Arnie, and it always has, just as my “failure” in your eyes to pull the pin and start tossing grenades disturbs you. Let me ask— just exactly what ELSE or what MORE would you expect a Great-Grandmother from Big Lake, Alaska, to do???
Hiding behind the grandmother image is really beneath you. How disappointing. This is not about you and this is not about me. It is about those who were given the trust of the American people. And it is specifically about those who decided to violate this trust and to deliberately and with malice aforethought engage in conduct that was criminal.
And I take exception to the descriptions of tossing grenades and shooting first as boldface lies. Some more of the Saul Alinsky techniques, referred to above, in order to plant thoughts designed to undermine my character, which could never be directly attributed to me, based on anything that I have written or promoted. You and anyone else that may be interested is more than welcome to examine any of the more than 4500 commentaries posted on the scanned retina.
So far as I am concerned— and this is “official” and “take it to the bank”—- my opinion is that the majority of the damage we are suffering was done by people who lived 150 years ago during the wake of the Civil War and by their grandsons acting during the 1930’s, and the only ones left alive who are culpable and who are still among us are a few corporate shills like Bill Clinton and the Bushes, some select members of “Congress” who actually do know what is going on, and a whole bunch of bankers and lawyers —- most of whom live overseas beyond our direct reach. Nailing those rats will take international cooperation, and, as it turns out, international cooperation will also be necessary to nail the Clintons and the Bushes and those current generation members of Congress—- because as I have told you until I am blue in the face—- the “Federal United States” is foreign with respect to the “Continental United States”—– as foreign as Ireland is from Spain.
while what you say about the damage being done in the past may be true, but that does not excuse all of those today… Currently engaged and actively continuing to perpetuate this fraud against the people, from the responsibility of the continued criminal enterprise which exists today and it is obvious in any direction one cares to look.
And I speak from personal experience and can actively demonstrate about what I am describing… So don’t lay this garbage on us that everybody is ignorant and pure as the driven snow. You speak treason ANNA… shall I spell that out for you…?
T R E A S O N!
The Impostors Rigging the Game—The Hoax of Federal Jurisdiction
The 14th Amendment. Congressional fraud!
Georgia made it well known: There is no 14th Amendment
Mark Levin – The 14th Amendment Fraud
The Fourteenth Amendment Hoax – Judge Anna von Reitz Exposes the Fraudulent Congress
The Travis Allen Affair – District 72 – California
John Chiang, Controller, California – Safeguard the Public Trust. Your Oath demands it!
Congressman Rohrabacher… Guilty of treason? Guilty of fraud?
The U.S. Congress’s Assault on Citizens – Letter to representative Rohrabacher
Rohrabacher – Grand Jury Presentment
The End of a Perfectly Good public servant relationship.
Fountain Valley, Ca. – A Summary – February 2014
The Colorado Summary of Corruption
Duty, Honor, Country! The Randy Due Case
State of Tennessee v. Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III
The Thomas Deegan Affair – Thomas Deegan One in a million
West Virginia Impostors perpetrate an act of piracy: Thomas Deegan
YOU are an ENEMY of the STATE: Congress Declares in 1933!
Notice: West Virginia State Police – Official Notice: It is we the people who create and can abolish government at our will.
“State of West Virginia:” A private Corporation – impersonating the lawful state “West Virginia
yes judge Anna… They are all innocent… Misguided public servants… Totally ignorant to the harm they are causing their constituents. They are totally ignorant of the organized criminal actions they orchestrate and pass off as theatrics… Yes indeed… Every single one of them is totally innocent and ignorant of all of their crimes. They couldn’t possibly know that they are board members of a private corporation controlled by the British crown for the purposes of destroying America but not until after they have completely decimated the citizens and their prosperity. Certainly every American that reads your comments will understand from where you are, coming… Of that fact I am certain.
I believe that the attached “Christmas Message for Veterans” will more than sum things up and do it man-to-man. If you want to fight with someone about my lack of condemnation for people who are mostly long dead and beyond any consequence for their action (Think about it five seconds.
Oh boy… Wow! Your skill at theatrics is every bit as good as PT Barnum.

What are we supposed to do, Arnie? Dig Lincoln and Franklin Delano Roosevelt up and piss on their bones?
Well honestly, judge Anna, pissing on their bones had not occurred to me. Although the thought had occurred to me to at least dig up the body and prosecute, the impostor identified at the following link. And… if found guilty of treason… Hang his dead body as a sign to all the rest of the members of Congress as to what we expect of them as our representatives.
John Murtha – Impostor committed Treason – Time to sue his estate…
and to put teeth into it, we begin to file suit against Murtha’s estate and any recoverable assets, to be retrieved and returned to the public treasury.
Is that the kind of action that you want?) and my restraint in blaming others for not knowing what took me forty years to learn—- then you can take it up with James Clinton Belcher.
Yes! That’s just some of the action we need to demonstrate that were done talking… And more—finished accepting excuses, lies and deception.
And so you wash your hands of responsibility because you have been exposed as an agent and now turn it over to Mr. Belcher. And Mr. Belcher is…?
See attached and please publish it as part of my response to you and all those hotheads who think they can correct this situation by taking over “State” Office Buildings in West Virginia.
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 8:44 AM, ARNIE ROSNER <> wrote:
Arnie Rosner: Response to Judge Anna. We love a lot of what you have taught us and revealed; but it is the dropping of the other shoe about which I have the concern….
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  Is it just me or what ?  This entire back and forth between these two does nothing to address the problem or correct it. I have to agree to a point with Arnie, that ignorance is no defense or justification for what continues to be purpetrated against the People. For the average sheeple, that defense may hold some water. For those actually in the system, working, using (abusing) the very people they supposedly represent, accountability is important... but that alone doesn't fix the problem.
  We need to make the changes then you can go hang the bastards if it makes you feel any better.

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Thank you Marty! I agree seems kind of silly though I like to see the points each make.

We need an uprising of the people and a redo of the system that is so very broken.


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