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RV/GCR Chatter ~ Weekend Thread

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1 RV/GCR Chatter ~ Weekend Thread on Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:26 am



"I Believe" - Yosef - Saturday - 3.26.2016 (2)

3/25/2016 09:03:00 PM  Intel, Thoughts, Yosef  

I Believe…

… in Yeshua Ben Yosef as God, man and Savior of mankind and Earth.
… in unprecedented miracles occurring in my lifetime.
… in Sovereign Families who sincere care and act in humanity's best interests daily.
… in the abundant physical holdings of the Global Collateral Accounts.
… in a planet-wide gold backed currency that unifies 209 nations.
… in universal justice taking root and yielding moral fruit.
… in Ascended Masters that are guiding us benevolently through a transition of eras.
… in non-human beings walking the surface of the earth -- right now.
… in the disclosure of multi-terrestrial beings aiding humanity -- and soon
… in forgiving my enemies so that I can free my soul.
… in White Hats military men and women taking back the Pentagon from the cabal.
… in God's grace flooding this dimension without end or limitation.
… in human bodies living longer than 500 years.
… in Grandfather's decision making, as well as Christ's loving spirit in His heart.
… in everyone who reads this will soon be millionaires -- at worst.
… in humanity is being recalibrated back into our original cellular structure.
… in any truth to overcome all illusion.
… in the dreams of my brothers and sisters as much as I do my own.
… in God's plan for my life, planet, and species -- unconditionally and patiently.
… in holding a grand vision until my last breath, so that it can fill the worst skeptic's lungs.
… in community fellowship overcoming individual agendas.
… in building an eternal resume that will one day be presented to God.
… in listening to vastly different opinions without forgoing common sense or personal respect.
… in things I cannot see yet, but feel so true they must eventually manifest.
… in Heaven on Earth, and Earth being created from a Heavenly architect.
… in protecting the souls of men versus leveraging the principal for projects.
… in the Global Currency Reset and Revaluation of Currencies happening at midnight tonight.
… in love -- for everything in existence is made of love and thus everything serves God.

What do you believe in?

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2 Re: RV/GCR Chatter ~ Weekend Thread on Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:28 am



Deep Source Intel SITREP: "The Elders" -- March 25, 2016

4:02 PM  [url= Elders]Chinese Elders[/url], [url= Source]Deep Source[/url], Dinarland, GCR, RV, [url= News]Secret News[/url]  No comments
Deep Source Intel SITREP (Situation Report) for March 25, 2016

Orginally Posted at Dinar Chronicles:

"The Elders" - Intel SITREP from Deep Source(s) for March 25

Deep Source (RV/GCR):
"The Elders are attempting to release the funds once again. Logistics in Reno were setup and organized as of yesterday morning, Thursday, March 24, 2016. Announcement scheduled on Monday night. 800 numbers to be given the next day."

Deep Source (Resistance):
"Sting operation still in progress, nearing completion."

Deep Source (The Alliance):
"No information at this time."

Note from Deep Source(s):
"Please note: Intel that is being provided from us to you is indeed accurate but completely raw and does have a tendency to not follow through. There is no denying that we are all in frustration and loss of patience. It is entirely a fact that intel being provided is real, but there are constant on-going activities that change the situation. This is agonizing but you mustn't lose hope. Nothing lasts forever."
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3 Re: RV/GCR Chatter ~ Weekend Thread on Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:28 pm



The Republic is Being Restored, General Dunford is in Charge

5:32 AM  [url= Family]Clinton Family[/url], FBI, [url= Dunford]General Dunford[/url], [url= Helm]Jade Helm[/url], [url= Mafia]Khazarian Mafia[/url], [url= Republic]New Republic[/url], [url= News]Secret News[/url], Trump, USA  1 comment
General Dunford in charge

Friday, March 25, 2016 4:52

I should note that I’ve come across a wild claim that a certain General Dunford has accomplished a coup d’etat, on Jan 21st, and is now the Acting President of the republic, a ‘restoration’ of the United States while Obama retains the position of “national spokesperson” so as not to incite panic.

[and from another]

The military, FBI and agency rank and file are determined not to let any Khazarian mafia stooge like Hillary Clinton be elected as president this time. The Pentagon sources are saying the election is likely to be one between Donald Trump and Vice-President Biden. Biden is biding his time and waiting to step in after Hillary Clinton is indicted, pentagon and agency sources say. On that front the, “military is involved with a secret grand jury that may have gone rogue against those trying to stop the investigation of Hillary,” one of the sources says.

[and from another]

Klein said that Comey has a choice at the end of the investigation—he could send the case to Attorney General Loretta Lynch and recommend whether Clinton should be indicted or he can bypass the Justice Department and the White House and go to a federal judge who is overseeing the case. Klein posited that when the FBI concludes its investigation, Comey may ultimately let a federal judge decide whether to indict Clinton.

In July, at the start of the Jade Helm exercises to run from July 15-September15, 2015, we referred to the announcement as “firmly in the schedule “. It was clear from the Jade Helm plans that the intent was for the US military to be standing at the ready, for the panic in the people and the rush from countries to the south of the US after the announcement, a matter we referred to as “rioting after the announcement”. Then there were hints of a Third Term for Obama in late July, on the Jon Stewart show, and we the Zetas suggested that Obama might “delay or cancel” the 2016 elections.

On September 5, 2015 when Obama went to Alaska, roughing it with Bear Grylls, we referred to this time as “just ahead of the announcement”. Then Jade Helm came and went, with no announcement. All talk of a pending announcement within ZetaTalk stopped, other than to indicate that corporations knew this was in the future, that mankind would become aware. On January 16, 2016 we stated the ocean shipping slowdown was due in part to “rumors that the presence of Nibiru is about to be announced”. And during Wal-Mart closures on January 23, 2016 we stated that this was because they “anticipate the announcement”.

So what happened to the announcement? Obama lacked the courage. As a result of this colossal failure, having to disband the Jade Helm structure, the US military reacted. Obama is no longer running the country. Chief of Staff General Dunford is. Ben Fulford has for months been referring to Obama as the US “spokesperson” and on March 14, 2016 mentioned a “secret Grand Jury” empaneled by the military. Insider Ed Kline had inferred that the indictment of Hillary may result not from the DOJ but from a judge that the FBI has been working with. The DOD is repeatedly mentioned. Now there are various Internet rumors that Dunford is in charge.

Is this true, and how does this work? In that the Middle East, under the direction and press from Israel, Turkey, the Jewish bankers of the Federal Reserve, and the Saudis were supporting ISIS and this threatened to create a force that would not only invade Europe but also create an endless terrorism threat to the US, the military did indeed effect a silent coup. Russia needed to enter the fray, and Dunford, but not Obama, agreed. This will never be admitted, publicly, nor do the parties want this. So what of the indictment of Hillary? In that the military is in charge, the Grand Jury has been empaneled there, something we confirmed on March 19, 2016.

General Dunford is using the DOD prosecution at present using national security threats as the rationale. For lack of a better term to use with civilians, Hillary is being court martialed, for her time as Secretary of State which is an official position equivalent to a military officer, and as he, General Dunford, is now in charge, all federal positions can be seen as nilitary positions. Thus, her indictment is legal, but the public would be confused. Dunford will order the DOJ to prosecute, while in the meantime all Grand Jury activity is proceeding without delay.

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4 Re: RV/GCR Chatter ~ Weekend Thread on Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:29 pm


… in Sov...

Is the Iraqi Dinar Investment a Wise Investment?

3/26/2016 01:21:00 PM  News  
What does it mean to "invest" in the Iraqi dinar? In simple terms, it's conducted in the same fashion as any currency investment. You purchase ‘x’ Iraqi dinar (IQD) by paying ‘y’ U.S. dollars (or your domicile currency). As with buying stocks, bonds or other currency, you purchase dinar at a given price and then expect the price to rise. The real question, though, is not just "can" you invest in this particular currency, but rather "should" you invest. (Check out Investopedia's large selection of forex tutorials.)

Is there the possibility of a scam in such an investment scheme?

Financial scams usually have certain characteristics. A few tip-offs include:

  • If the scheme is run and promoted by individual agents instead of known entities;

  • If there are heavy unofficial promotions through internet/emails/telemarketing calls instead of open and fair marketing;

  • If transactions occur primarily through street-based dealers, high variations in available rates, and high markup fees yet promises of overly exaggerated returns.

In the case of the Iraqi dinar investment scheme, there might be additional red flags:

  • Reputed banks (e.g. Wells Fargo) abstaining from offering forex trading in Iraqi dinars;

  • States like Utah issuing warnings against such investments;

  • Very wide bid-ask spreads; and

  • Impractical reasoning (discussed below) justifying Iraqi dinar as a "perfectly safe" and "sure-shot high return" investment scheme.

All these factors give rise to further doubt (See Investopedia's tutorial on Investment Scams.).

The basics of forex

First, here's a very rudimentary explanation of what it means to invest in a currency. For example, let's say the Iraqi dinar forex rate is 1 US$ = 1160 IQD (as is the case, approximately, in August 2014). If you invest US$1000 in Iraqi dinars with that rate, you will get IQD 1.16 million. After this “investment,” you will wait and watch, expecting the IQD to rise against the US$. If your expectations come true, and the exchange rate improves to a hypothetical value--say 1 USD = 1 IQD, then your investment is now worth US$1.16 million. Under this hypothesis, the investor would become a millionaire by investing US$1000, which grew to US$1.16 million.

But what happens if the dinar takes the opposite direction? Say it deteriorates to 1 US$ = 2000 IQD. Now your invested holding of IQD1.16 million is only worth US$580. Effectively, you have lost $420 on your investment.

The big question, Is the Iraqi dinar Investment a hyped scam or can any profitability be achieved?

First, let’s begin with the positives:

Although speculative thoughts about Iraqi dinar Investments have been going around for a long time, there were developments based on reports which led to spike in speculation in IQD-US$ trading (like the statement issued by IMF around mid-2007, in the post-Saddam Hussein era). It mentioned the International Compact with Iraq, which was interpreted in multiple ways and led to further speculation in the Iraqi dinar currency trading.

“(Iraqi Authorities) have taken some courageous measures, including the gradual increase in domestic fuel prices and, starting in 2007, the elimination of all direct budgetary fuel subsidies, except for kerosene. Iraq has also embarked on an ambitious structural reform program, in order to make the transition to a more market-based economy.”

The article further states:

“To combat inflation, action has been initiated on three fronts. First, the Central Bank of Iraq raised its policy interest rates sharply and allowed a gradual appreciation of the dinar. These measures aimed to de-dollarize the economy in order to enhance the central bank's control over monetary conditions, and also to reduce imported inflation.”

Just prior to these, the IQD-USD exchange rate was around 1270 (April 2007) and as of August 2014 it is around 1160 – a positive return of around 8.5%. No big significant price moves have been observed since then, considering the long duration.

Trends further down the line will depend on the current and future developments in the region.

Current Situation & Future Prospects of Iraq:

Civil war, regional fights and western countries staying away are major concerns of current Iraq, with the extreme possibility of the country splitting into three separate regions. If that happens, the payday may as well never come for investors holding Iraqi dinar and waiting for value appreciation.

Backed by the oil reserves, Iraq has the potential to spring back and establish itself as a stable economy. It managed to do so after the eight-year long Iran-Iraq war. But that will need a peaceful, promising business atmosphere to establish investor confidence, which will in turn help revive its economy and bring back the IQD forex rate to realistic levels.

Now to the other side of the coin:

There are reasons pointing to Iraqi dinar investments being a hyped scam, most important factor being IQD literally trading in the “forex black market” instead of regular banks and trading desks. Additionally, the following incorrect statements are heavily publicized by the propagators of Iraqi dinar Investment schemes:

  1. “IQD is heavily undervalued at present and will rise significantly against USD in mid-to-long term due to a pending revaluation bound to happen soon”

Supporters of Iraqi dinar Investment are reported to be confusing the two economic terms - Revaluation vs. Redenomination.

Revaluation is the actual calculated adjustment made to a country's official exchange rate relative to a chosen baseline (gold or USD). Revaluation results in that currency becoming expensive to the base currency by the factor of adjustment and hence changes the purchasing power of that currency.

Redenomination is done in case of high inflation levels by old high value notes being made equal to new small value notes (1000 Old dinars = 1 New dinar). It simply drops off the zeroes keeping the purchasing power the same as before.

There are confirmed news items that Iraq did plan to redenominate its currency, but not revaluate. In the absence of any revaluation, there is going to be no change in the forex exchange rate of Iraqi dinar IQD (with or without redenomination).

Economists also point out that it would not be beneficial to the Iraqi economy to allow any such value appreciation by the authorities (even by means of revaluation). Doing so will lead to multiple problems for Iraq:

  • The inability to repay the national debts due to revised valuations

  • Literally putting barricades for foreign companies to enter Iraq for business

  • Overall restricted growth in the post-war era, due to ripple effects of above

2. “Similar 'Revaluation' Of Kuwaiti dinar is a historical proof”

Some try to encourage investment in the Iraqi dinar based on the success case of the “revaluation” of the Kuwaiti dinar (KWD), which today is a high valued currency.

However, this is misleading. While the official Kuwait Government Site does mention a new release of notes following the Iraqi invasion, there wasn’t any revaluation. The new release was to prevent use of stolen and looted old Kuwaiti dinars.

In the Kuwaiti example, the pre-war forex rates were retained, simply changing the bank notes.

It is also impractical -- and economically impossible -- to “revalue” a currency in such a way that its value increases many fold, without there being a real addition to the reserves.

3. "Post War development may take time, but always gives good results"

Examples of European countries like the Netherlands, UK, etc. are cited in this case in an attempt to justify an Iraqi dollar investment. These other countries managed to make a rapid comeback from the effects of World War II, and are today considered among the developed countries.

One important fact missed here is that these countries were able to progress faster because the war situation was completely different from the Iraq War. It was then a case of world war where the European countries in question were on the winning side and got maximum support in the post-war aftermath.

The case of Iraq, by contrast, is more of a civil war, where there exists a possibility of the country being split into multiple fragments. Even if it stays as one nation, it will still take a good long time for the economy to recover.

4. Executive Order 13303 gives Americans special legal rights to hold or invest in Iraqi dinar”

Order 13303 is for protection of “the Development Fund for Iraq, Iraqi oil products and interests – including ownership by U.S. persons – from any legal attachments or liens”. It does not mention rights or protection for investments in Iraqi dinar, at all, by anyone.

5. The Iraqi dinar is still a good buy, even without a “revaluation”

This is based on the strong belief by a few investors that Iraq’s oil reserves and development potential make the dinar a good purchase. Some investors argue that the market could drive a strong appreciation for the Iraqi dinar in the post war era, simply because the huge oil reserves will eventually make it a strong currency.

Similar to Iraqi dinar, similar rumors are reported for Vietnamese dong and, most recently, the Egyptian pound.

Can a short term high-frequency trader benefit from IQD-USD forex trading?

Possibly Yes, but practically No.

The reason is that the IQD-US$ forex trading market is virtually non-existent. No banks are offering Iraqi dinars. If you have to buy Iraqi dinars, you can buy them only at select money exchangers, who may or may not be legally registered. Secondly, they charge a hefty markup fee, to the tune of up to 20%, for such transactions. This will erode the profit potential even for short term trading.

Can this be a good bet for a long term investment?

Forex trading in general comes with a few challenges:

  • Overvalued profit potential based on investor’s misconceptions.

  • The misleading practices of foreign exchange dealers as forex is primarily an OTC market. Further complications and malpractice exist in trading such illiquid and unregulated asset class.

  • Investors' basic ignorance about international forex valuations

  • Loss aversion – investors holding onto loss-making assets further deteriorating the valuations of their investments

How Iraq, its economy and hence the forex rate develop over the long term, is going to be a long term uncertain bet.

The Bottom Line:

Trading forex currencies is always risky, as external factors at international levels are difficult to control or predict. Unless you are trading on regulated markets or through regulated agents, traders and investors should use extreme caution for trading such currencies.

By Shobhit Seth | Updated December 10, 2015

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5 Re: RV/GCR Chatter ~ Weekend Thread on Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:30 pm



Top Ten Reasons Not to Invest In The Iraqi Dinar by Kenny

3/26/2016 01:16:00 PM  Kenny, News  
The Iraqi dinar (IQD) revaluation rumor has been around for a number of years and continues to attract a substantial number of believers. Scores of people have purchased Iraqi dinars from fast-talking promoters and online dinar currency dealers based on the firm belief that they will make windfall profits – reportedly as much as 1,000 times their original “investment” – when the currency is revalued.

This belief in a dinar revaluation is based primarily on the fact that Iraq has the world’s second-largest oil reserves. Proponents of dinar revaluation also point to the surge in value after the first Gulf War of the Kuwaiti dinar, which is now one of the world’s most expensive currencies. (Check out Investopedia's primer on the Forex Market.)

The Iraqi dinar was trading in July 2014 at a rate of about 1,200 per United States dollar, so a 1,000-fold revaluation would see the exchange rate at 1.2 per U.S. dollar. So what are the odds of that revaluation actually happening? Probably about the same as winning the Powerball lottery, which is to say virtually nil. Before you plunk down your hard-earned dollars for the currency equivalent of moose pasture, here are our top 10 reasons why you should not invest in the Iraqi dinar.

  1. Iraq is falling apart: In mid-2014, Iraq was facing its most severe crisis in years, as a swift offensive by Sunni Muslim militants threatened to break up the country. As of July 2014, these militants control much of northern Iraq, while Kurdish forces have seized Kirkuk and nearby oilfields; this has left the Iraqi government only in control of the capital Baghdad and the south. When the country’s very survival is at stake, currency revaluation is very unlikely to be on the agenda.

  2. The economy is struggling: The Iraq economy had been on the upswing until the assault by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in 2014 threatened to set it back by years. In 2012, Iraq became the second-biggest oil producer in OPEC; in spring 2014, oil production in the nation reached a 35-year high of 3.2 million barrels per day. While most of Iraq’s oil production and export facilities are in the south, and thus quite distant from the conflict between ISIS and Iraqi forces, it also has significant resources in areas controlled by ISIS and Kurdish forces, which may be impossible to develop. With the economy already struggling, the last thing it needs is the challenge posed by a massive revaluation.

  3. Iraqi dinars do not trade on global forex markets: The value of the dinar is currently set through an auction process by the Central Bank of Iraq. As the dinar does not trade on global forex markets, its value is set by government edict rather than by supply and demand as it is for freely traded currencies. This also means that so-called dinar dealers can charge any rate they desire to unsuspecting investors.

  4. Iraqi dinars can be redeemed only in Iraq: Since Iraqi dinars do not trade on global forex markets, they cannot be redeemed anywhere except in Iraq.

  5. Several U.S. states have warned about Iraqi dinar scams: A number of U.S. states have been warning their residents for a few years now about scams involving the Iraqi dinar.

  6. Dinar currency brokers may not be legitimate: The Washington State Department of Financial Institutions (DFI), in a warning about potential dinar scams, notes that a number of online dealers who offer Iraqi dinars register with the U.S. Treasury as a Money Services Business (MSB) to make their scam seem legitimate. However, the MSB registration only requires a form to be filled out and does not reflect any currency trading experience or any special qualifications on the part of the dealer. It also warns that most of these websites are operating illegally in Washington State, without a currency exchange or money transmission license issued by the DFI.

  7. Great deal of currency already in circulation: At a rate of about 1200 Iraqi dinars to one U.S. dollar, it is apparent that there is a great deal of Iraqi currency already in circulation. While it is possible that the Central Bank of Iraq may one day lop off three zeros to create a new currency – as has been done over the decades by a number of nations – there is a world of difference between such a redenomination (which does not change the fundamental value of a currency) and a revaluation (which does).

  8. Inflation differentials: Iraq’s inflation rate has decreased from an annual rate of 4% in early 2014 to just above 2% by mid-year. This may not seem like an unduly high rate, but is higher than the inflation rate in most advanced economies that were more concerned with the prospect of deflation than inflation in the period before 2014. The Iraqi economy could also face higher inflation if the country is wracked by civil war. An adverse inflation differential vis-à-vis the U.S. dollar is scarcely a recipe for currency revaluation.

  9. Devaluation more likely than revaluation: As a result of some of the above factors, it is likely that devaluation rather than revaluation may be the most likely outcome for the Iraqi dinar in the years ahead.

  10. If it’s such a great idea, why the high-pressure sales tactics? The Oklahoma Securities Commission warns that high-pressure sales tactics are being used to flog Iraqi dinars, including claims that buying dinars is a time-sensitive investment that requires immediate action. Such boiler-room tactics seldom if ever work out well for the investor.

The Bottom Line

There are simply too many warning signs to warrant investing in this currency. When it comes to the Iraqi dinar, caveat emptor or buyer beware should be the watchword.


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6 Re: RV/GCR Chatter ~ Weekend Thread on Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:44 pm


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lifting of the House of Representatives to its regular day after tomorrow , Monday hosted by the Secretary General of the United Nations and World Bank President Jim Yong Kim , the Islamic Development Bank President Ahmad Mohamed Ali.
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We started the reform program through a significant reduction in spending and encourage the private sector and diversify the economy and reduce dependence on oil and the implementation of plans in the industrial, agricultural, financial and administrative sectors.
3.Prime Minister Dr. Haider al-Abadi confirms the ability of the Iraqis to emerge from the current crisis stronger, and that the country overcome the ordeal and will cross to safety and frees its territory and strengthens the economy.
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5.World Bank President Jim Yong Kim announced that the gross domestic product of Iraq has a $ 200 billion annually.
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9.Urgent Abadi: we were able to make a significant reduction in spending for the advancement in other sectors
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11.Urgent Islamic Bank: We have agreed with the World Bank on the transfer of Iraq 's dependence on oil to agriculture and industry


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