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Out Of Mind » RV/GCR CAST OF CHARACTERS & CHARLETONS » Jerzy Babkowski aka ZAP & Susan » DAVID CRAYFORD ~ JERZY, YOU HAVE SELF INCRIMINATED YOURSELF AND DOUG, SUFFICIENTLY FOR A LONG PRISON SENTENCE.

DAVID CRAYFORD ~ JERZY, YOU HAVE SELF INCRIMINATED YOURSELF AND DOUG, SUFFICIENTLY FOR A LONG PRISON SENTENCE.

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DAVID CRAYFORD ......................... JERZY, YOU HAVE SELF INCRIMINATED YOURSELF AND DOUG, SUFFICIENTLY FOR A LONG PRISON SENTENCE.
Posted By: igots2no [Send E-Mail]
Date: Thursday, 12-May-2016 21:22:29



Mr Babkowski,

Having read your article and the article of American Lawyer, several times, I have to say that you have no grounds whatsoever to dispel anything stated by American Lawyer, and I will explain exactly why to you.

The first thing you need to know is that following my extensive review of both articles I had a very long conversation with the ITC / M1 regarding same on the grounds that you have incriminated yourself to the point that it is now legally construed and considered that you have in fact pleaded GUILTY to crimes against the ITC / M1 and the Combined International Collateral Accounts of the Global Debt Facility.

Whether you realise this fact is questionable as it could be that your naivety and humanitarian heart out-weighed your brains. On the other hand, your definitive and slightly arrogant approach to your response to American Lawyer also clearly indicates your strong beliefs in the persons you are dealing with so much that you have developed an obsessional, dogmatic attitude to the point of being unable to comprehend reality, or even undertake the proper professional inquiries before you commenced this quest of yours.

Allow me to explain.

a) Your statement, quote “NO. THE TRUST IS OLDER THAN THE OITC, AND FALLS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE WORLD BANK, BIS, FED, VATICAN, THE ROYALS, AND OTHERS. THEY HAVE DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE OF THESE PERMISSIONS FROM THESE BODIES, BUT NOT FROM THE OITC. GEE, I WONDER WHY. DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE NAME OF THE TRUST? I BET YOU DON’T. DARTBOARD TIME.

DC You have previously stated that you are, and I will use the word FACILITATING, the redemption of Bonds such as the PETCHILLI BONDS (PB’S) AND THE TREATY OF VERSAILLES BONDS (TOV’S) via the trust. Those Bonds are the legal property of the Collateral Accounts whereby you have no authority whatsoever to be involved with them or even handle them. The only person who can give such authority, or even handle them is the International Treasury Controller, not you or anyone else.

The Bonds you refer to have either been stolen from various depositories, or, acquired by persons for a payment based upon a totally unofficial and illegal validation usually from an American Company known as Pass & Co.
The Holders, Custodians, Guardians of the assets of the Collateral Accounts, are just that and hold no Power or Authority, or Decision making process at all over any assets or accounts held under Custodianship rules by them. That is because of the structure of the Trusts / Foundations under the PIF or PIT regime, whereby such Powers or Authorities were held by the Beneficiaries only, until of course, these Trusts and Foundations were consolidated under Foundation Divine and legally passed, by Legal Deed (RCD 1088 dated January 1995) to the International Treasury Controller as Legal Heir, Owner, Sole Arbiter and Controller. In other words, legally designated with legal ownership of same passed to the International Treasury Controller to be utilised for the benefit of all Nations and People of the World.
The Cabal, including those parties, organisations, or otherwise that you are working with, have prevented the Mandate of the International Treasury Controller from being implemented in the past because of their belligerent, ignorance and arrogance in believing that they still hold Power and Authority, or unlawfully claiming that right contrary to International Law and International Treaty Law.

You state, quote “FALLS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE WORLD BANK, BIS, FED, VATICAN, THE ROYALS, AND OTHERS. THEY HAVE DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE OF THESE PERMISSIONS FROM THESE BODIES”

DC Sorry Jerzy, this is where you are totally wrong. The Trust is part and parcel of the Foundation Divine and as such a legal part of the Combined International Collateral Accounts of the Global Debt Facility under the legal ownership of the International Treasury Controller.

I can also state without any hesitation or reservation that the World Bank, World Bank Group, BIS, FED, Vatican, The Royals (5 as you state) and Others, which includes the Committee of 300, are part and parcel of the cabal, whether you like to admit it or not.
I am totally surprised that you are not aware of this fact because most in the normal world are, and it has been stated many times how the IMF and World Bank have actually ruined countries. Jerzy, you don’t have to look far to see what I am referring to here, just look at Greece, and the Ukraine, for two examples.
Therefore you are working with, or in conjunction with the Cabal and as such are complicit in Theft, Fraud, and Treason against the ITC and the Collateral Accounts.

We are quite aware of the Royals you refer to, which includes the person who claims the name of Romanov. None of them are actually constitutionally involved with the countries they previously represented as Heads of State. These Royals are not Committee Signatories of those empowered to appoint the International Treasury Controller. They are in fact the small part of the Royal Families of the World who are considered and construed as ROGUE and hold no Power or Authority whatsoever.

What Powers and / or Authorities were given, or passed to the aforesaid parties / organisations, were given, or passed by the TTTGC during the period 1945 – 1995 and which were legally revoked / rescinded by the International Treaty dated January 1995. Therefore NONE of the aforementioned parties / organisations hold any power, authority, or otherwise over the Combined International Collateral Accounts of the Global Debt Facility. This revocation was reiterated in the International Treaty of 2012, and has since been legally endorsed by “Sovereign Decrees” issued in June 2012 and passed into Law on 1st July 2012.

I can state without any hesitation or reservation that the World Bank, World Bank Group, IMF, BIS, Federal Reserve, the US Treasury Department, the Committee of 300, and others, were all issued with Official Orders (Note: It is a Criminal Offence under International Law and International Treaty Law for anyone to usurp the powers and authorities of the Legally appointed International Treasury Controller, or any order, directive, decision, instruction, or otherwise, issued by the International Treasury Controller) to Cease and Desist from all illegal activities against the Collateral Accounts, whether it is reference to the revocation / rescinding of their past activities / agreements with the Collateral Accounts in conjunction with the TTTGC, or otherwise.
They have, unwisely, ignored those Official Orders, and as such the Board of Directors, Governors, Managers, or otherwise, of these organisations will be joining you in prison (That is not a threat, it‘s a promise). Oh, and please don’t concern yourself about being found wherever you might be in the world, as our Intelligence Department are very good at locating people even if you change you names.

By the way, the World Bank, in conjunction with the Committee of 300 are very good at setting up people to do all their dirty work. All paid for of course, unlawfully from the Collateral Accounts. One only has to look at the farce with how they established the fake Anthony Santiago Martin out of the Philippines, whom they used for many years and then dropped him when things got “Hot” for them.
In fact we have a written document from the World Bank / Committee of 300, which denies Anthony Santiago Martin and refers to him as an impostor. The real Anthony Santiago Martin died approximately 3 years before the claimed death of Ferdinand Marcos in September 1989. However, that is irrelevant as such because the names used by Ferdinand Marcos were all Code Names only and usually the names of his enemies. Quite a unique way of identifying your enemies to others, don’t you think.

The World Bank / Committee of 300 appear to be following a similar pattern with the person you refer to as “grandfather” and Landa China – Global / Humanus. They are not very innovative, inventive, or ingenious are they?
That factor has placed you and this “Grandfather” in a lot of serious trouble, and criminal trouble at that.

Let’s now look at another part of your statement, quote “THEY HAVE DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE OF THESE PERMISSIONS FROM THESE BODIES”

DC Yes, I have no doubt they have. Such documentary evidence from Official Organisations as the World Bank, IMF, BIS, FED, Vatican, The Royals, and others always appear to stand the credibility test with the naïve and innocent people of the world. You see them, read them, and believe them because of the so-called reputable name of the issuer.
I’ll bet that you even verified them and received a response from the Legal Department of the World Bank or some other legal entity, so you believed it all.
That’s how it works Jerzy, and that is how they get you hooked. So hooked in fact that you can’t get away. Sometimes, you don’t want to get away because you throw common sense out of the window and believe your dreams have come true.

What you didn’t, nor could you ever check on the fact as to whether the aforesaid organisations held the power and / or authority to issue such a document in the first place.
NO, THEY DIDN’T JERZY, AND THEY HAVEN’T HELD ANY POWER AND / OR AUTHORITY SINCE JANUARY 1995, despite the fact that they still unlawfully claim same and are committing Fraud, Theft, Criminal Deception, misappropriation, embezzlement, etc, for which you are complicit in, whereby it becomes plainly obvious to us that you are either naïve stooges having not checked everything out carefully in the first place, or, as American Lawyer puts it, Cabal Shills knowingly working with these people..

Now for another part of your statement, quote ““NO. THE TRUST IS OLDER THAN THE OITC,

DC “The Trust is older than the OITC”. Yes it is, along with thousands of other Trusts and Foundations. Some of these Trusts and Foundations can be traced back to the 16th century and formed under what is known as PIF’s or PIT’s (Private Investment Foundations / Trusts), and they are all legally owned by Foundation Divine and / or Heritage International Trust. Both of which are the Master Holding Trust / Foundation (owning thousands of other Trusts and Foundations, sub-trusts and sub-foundations) of the Combined International Collateral Accounts of the Global Debt Facility which is legally owned by The International Treasury Controller as Legal Heir, Owner, and Sole Arbiter, as well as M1, as legally appointed under International Private Treaties, by those empowered to appoint in January 1995, and May 2012.

The ITC / OITC was initiated and implemented in January 1995 to take over from the TTTGC (Trilateral Trillenium Tripartite Gold Commission) whose Fifty (50) year term (1945 1995) as Administrators and Managers under the final control of Ferdinand Marcos (Former President of the Philippines, former M1, and former Master Holder and Controller of the Global Debt Facility); was not extended or renewed on the grounds of extensive / massive fraud, theft, misappropriation, embezzlement, etc by the then TTTGC.

The first International Treasury Controller was Dr Ray C. Dam, a descendant of the Cambodian Royal Family and former G7 Gold Signatory. Unfortunately, he met his demise, at the hands of Scott, Keenan, and the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency). NOTE: not the CANADIAN INDIAN AGENCY as you sarcastically imply.
This created an immense amount of damage to Dr Ray Dam, rendering him mentally incapacitated and he was officially removed from his position.

At this juncture a new International Treasury Controller was necessary whereby the appointment of same was officially declared in May 2012, for which the new International Treasury Controller holds the same Powers and Authorities as a ‘Sovereign” with its own jurisdiction.

You appear to believe that because the Trust is older than the OITC, that the OITC is irrelevant.
Far from it Jerzy, far from it because you really have no idea what you are talking about.

Are you that naïve to actually believe what you think, because that how it appears.
Like all the others who come along, which includes Hudes, Keenan, Fulford, Drake, Wilcox, Struck, and others; attempting to illegally use the assets of the Collateral Accounts. You take a small part of the information and then believe you know it all. Boy oh boy, the depth of your naivety is not only astounding but astonishing.
You cannot even connect all the dots because you just don’t know and you don’t want to know.

I am not even going to bother to try and educate you, as I have many others with my posts, because you just don’t want to know do you Jerzy. You’re alright Jack and screw the rest, is your attitude, and you have the audacity to “lamblast” others who know a hell of a lot more than you.
Still, you will have plenty of time in prison, with all the others to compare notes and learn, won’t you Jerzy. However, that will be far too late for your and Doug.

Your statement, quote “01-4 PROTOCOL TO INTRODUCE KEEPERS AND HOLDERS OF HISTORIC ASSETS TO THE ONE ENTITY WE KNOW THAT CAN PROPERLY HANDLE THE HISTORIC ASSETS BY VIRTUE OF PERMISSIONS FROM THE WORLD REGULATORY BODIES,

DC Oh Dear Jerzy, you and Doug have been fooled and conned in a very big way.

01-4 PROTOCOLS DO NOT EXIST LEGALLY and can never be legally enforced by these so-called the World Regulatory Bodies you refer to.
Furthermore, if these Protocols were issued by the World Bank or any other organisation, whether before or after the 1995 International Treaty or the 2012 International Treaty, they are automatically invalid, revoked, rescinded, void, and legally unenforceable by virtue of the said International Treaties, and the “Sovereign Decrees” dated 1st July 2012.

They make it sound so official using the word “Protocols” and placing a number by it, and probably placing in on official letterhead with signatures.

If I didn‘t know any better I would say you were the biggest fools on this planet, but no, I think you, like many others in the past and at present, are just stupidly naïve and complacent individuals.
You’ve seen the documents, you have viewed them, you believed them, you may or may not have verified them, and off you go like little dogs wagging their tails in excitement.

Tell me Jerzy, why do the World Bank, IMF, Vatican, BIS, Fed, and others need you, or anyone else for that matter. I’ll tell you why, because they actually need fools like you to do their dirty work so that whenever they are questioned on this they can use the “Plausible Deniability” factor.

I just cannot believe that you have been so stupid as to fall for all of this, if you did fall for it, or, if you are knowingly a part of this Cabal operation, which in my opinion is far more likely; when you should know that the organisations you refer to hold enough power between them to operate and undertake such matters on their own.
You and Doug, and possibly the person you refer to as “Grandfather” are the “Fall Guys” here but obviously at this juncture you are blind and just cannot see it.

The only person / entity that can authorise anything of this nature, and has the legal position, capacity and right to do so since 1995, is the International Treasury Controller. No one else, not the World Bank, the IMF, the BIS, the Committee of 300, the Vatican, the Federal Reserve, or anyone, so absorb that and think seriously about where you actually stand, not where you believe you stand.
The ITC is the only Regulatory Body in the World for anything to do with the Combined International Collateral Accounts of the Global Debt Facility.

Your statement, quote “NEITHER LAND NOR HUMANUS WORK WITH CRAYFORD OR THE OITC. WE ARE JUST AWARE OF THEM.”

DC Well, at least you are aware of me, and the ITC / OITC. That is more than can be said for many people around the world.
However, sorry Jerzy, in facilitating the illegal surrender of Collateral Account Assets, which is a criminal act, you do not work with or for the ITC / OITC, nor are you authorised in such matters.
Come on Jerzy, with your naivety and foolishness we cannot, and would not, have such fools as you and Doug working for us, or with us, in any form.
Those that do work for, or with us are dedicated people who have been able to check us out before making contact with us. They contribute a hell of a lot, and hold a very high degree of integrity and honesty so we are pleased to have them on board.
You and Doug on the other hand are amateurs who think they are professionals, working in conjunction with known crooks, all hinging, for the sake of public recognition, on the Humanitarian aspect of life, but whose main goal is totally different to Humanitarian factors.

Your comments, quote “THE GLOBAL RESET IS UNDERWAY AS EVIDENCED BY GLOBAL EVENTS, BUT THE VARIOUS ECONOMIES ARE VERY TENUOUS AND NEED THIS CHANGE NOW OR THEY WILL COLLAPSE.”

DC The GR is underway. Not a chance in hell Jerzy.

We have far better intell than you by a long way and we know this is all hype. It is what the people want to hear, but it is not what is happening The Cabal is playing games with everyone just to keep their little club together and in power, enabling them to continue with their Fraud and Theft of the Collateral Accounts and in complete denial of the ITC.

You see Jerzy, what they are doing is illegally using the Collateral Accounts to be able to finance all of this and introduce a system which appears to be fairer, but one they still control.
We know what is going on and all of this will be blocked because they do not have the power or legal right to use assets that legally belong top the International Treasury Controller.
Even if it did somehow move forward, eventually the day of reckoning will come and everything will collapse because it will be returned back to the Collateral Accounts. Then the world will be in a mess far greater than what we have right now, and you will be able to reminisce on your part, and that of Doug, in bringing the world to its knees .

Your comments, quote “WE MAKE THE INTRODUCTION TO THE TRUST UNDER THE 01-4 PROTOCOL FOR THE KEEPERS AND HOLDERS OF HISTORIC ASSETS FOR PROPER DISPOSITION THEREOF. WE DO NOT EVER ASK FOR SUCH ASSETS TO BE SENT TO US. WE DO ADVISE THAT THE ASSETS BE KEPT IN THE HOLDER’S POSSESSION UNTIL THE TRUST ADVISES WHAT TO DO WITH THEM. PLEASE CLARIFY WHAT IS ILLEGAL ABOUT THIS OR WHAT PART IS A CON. ALSO REMEMBER THAT WE CONSTANTLY STATE THAT WE ARE NOT DEPENDENT ON HISTORIC ASSETS FOR OUR FUNDINGS THAT WE PERFORM. IF AND WHEN WE REALIZE ALLOWABLE FEES FOR OUR SERVICE IN RESPECT OF THE HISTORIC ASSETS, THEY WILL BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. WE HAVE STATED THIS TIME AND AGAIN, BUT YOU HAVE SELECTIVE HEARING, IF ANY. I AM SURE NOW THAT YOU USE A DARTBOARD.”

DC If you and Doug had undertaken real investigations and research into the whole issue before you started, you should know that these Historic Assets are non-redeemable. There were two (2) International Treaties involved on this matter. One dated 1935 and the other 1968.

All these Historic Assets were deemed, under those International Treaties, to be passed to and become the legal property of the Collateral Accounts following the payment of Debts against these Bonds by the Collateral Accounts.
The countries who issued these Bonds are still indebted to the Collateral Accounts as none of these countries have ever honoured the terms of those International Treaties.

All of this was undertaken to bring the whole world to a better financial and economic balance at the time. It worked for a short time until Politics and Politicians started to get in the way, be adventurous and greedy, then it collapsed.
This is similar to the situation we have in the world from 2007/8. America’s debt …….. $18 trillion, U.K’s debt ……….. $3 trillion, and so on. They can’t pay that debt and think that the Collateral Accounts is coming to the rescue again and again. They can think again, because it is just not going to happen this time, the tables have turned. None of us can live, or want to live, in a world full of Parasites who live off the backs of others. These parasites have to live within their means and within the law.

The reason why your so-called Regulatory Bodies are so keen to lay their dirty little hands on them, and ultimately destroy them, is because by removing and destroying the evidence of the debt they believe they can ultimately escape payment of the debt.
They should think again because until they start to be honourable they will receive nothing from the Collateral Accounts.
Many of these countries have already been “Blacklisted” and will remain so until an agreement is reached with the ITC.
Too many countries, especially in the West have lived beyond their means for decades, by living off the proceeds of crime against the Collateral Accounts, and all for giving the electorate that “Feel Good” feeling so the Politicians of the day can get re-elected and carry on with their corruption and deception, theft and fraud.

Your statement, quote ““WHAT LIE? WE DO NOT LIE EVER. WE TELL THE TRUTH. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN SERVE OUR HUMANITY AND DO THE RIGHT THING AND NAVIGATE THROUGH ALL THE RUMORS AND MISINFORMATION THAT WE ARE ALL SUBJECTED TO.” IN RESPECT OF YOUR COMMENT THAT DOUG IS NOT DOING THE RIGHT RESEARCH, OR NOT TALKING TO THE RIGHT EXPERTS, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING OR WHO HE IS TALKING TO?”

DC American Lawyer is correct Jerzy. Doug cannot be talking to the right experts or doing the right research, otherwise you would have the truth before you, which you haven’t got at this moment in time.
You are lying because you are repeating (Parrot fashion) what you are told by others which is also misinformation and untruths.
It appears that you cannot disseminate fact from fiction Jerzy, but that is your problem, not mind.

I have to ask what are these so-called experts that Doug is talking to, expert in what? Because they are certainly not giving him the correct information / intell. Maybe they are the so-called experts working with the very organisations you have referred to which are all part of the Cabal.
Just like Karen Hudes, and people like Keenan. You and they are being fed falsities by the so-called experts and then you and they go about doing their work like little dogs with wagging tails, not realising that you and they are being used and are fed incorrect information which benefits only their handlers.

Your stated, quote “REALLY. AND I AM SURE YOU CAN PROVE THAT IN WRITTEN FORM RIGHT? IF SO, THEN GRANDFATHER WOULD HAVE ISSUE WITH YOU.”

DC Yes we can 100%, but I have to advise you that as you do not hold Full Jacket Level 3 – 5 International Security Clearance Level, there is no way I am going to show you as these documents are classified ‘Top Secret”. Only the ITC can authorise release of such documents.

Whether Grandfather has issue with us on it is irrelevant. Grandfather needs to prove to us with his own legal documents so we can verify him and what may, or may not be stated in those documents, and we will require certified documents, not notarised documents.

If “Grandfather” is the correct person, which I doubt, he will hold official documents that can prove his status.
I am not going to inform you as to what those documents are or the content of same, because otherwise you will probably start running around getting some fakes / forgeries prepared. We have seen this sort of activity so many times before and it is amazing the lengths some people go to for the purpose of trying to prove themselves right and that they are operating legitimately.

Your comments, quote “THE EUROPEAN ROYALS AND THE CHINESE ROYALS ARE THE ONES THAT SET UP THE COLLATERAL ACCOUNTS, THE DEBT FACILITY, THE GUARDIANSHIPS OF THE MATRIX WEALTH, AND THE VARIOUS REGULATORY BODIES THAT GOVERN THE DISPOSITION OF THESE ELEMENTS. SADLY, MOST OF THESE ENTITIES HAVE BECOME CORRUPTED OVER TIME AND USEFUL TO THE CABAL. THIS IS BEING CHANGED NOW OF COURSE, BUT HUMANITY SUFFERED BECAUSE OF THAT. CAN THE OITC WITHDRAW ONE CENT FROM THE COLLATERAL ACCOUNTS OF THEIR OWN POWER? NO, THEY CAN NOT. THEY NEED THE AGREEMENT OF GUESS WHO: THE ROYALS AND THE OTHER REGULATORY BODIES

DC Sorry Jerzy, but you are only partly correct on this issue.

It was the Royal Families of the World, covering the whole of Asia, from Central to Eastern, South East and Northern Asia, Europe, Russia, Africa, South America, the Caribbean, and so on.
They did not set up the Regulatory Bodies, other than appointing the International Treasury Controller(s). Those Regulatory Bodies were set up just after WW II in conjunction with the Bretton Woods Treaty. This excludes the Fed which was established in 1913 and which was initially loaned 75,000 MT of Gold from the Collateral Accounts by the Tzar of Russia, as Custodian of Collateral Account Assets held in Russia. That Gold has gone missing from the Fed and the US Government claim not to know anything about it. Denial without reason as the documents on this prove otherwise.

As for the last part of the aforesaid statement. The International Treasury Controller does not need the agreement of the Royals and other Regulatory Bodies. The International Treasury Controller is the legally appointed and Sole person who makes the decisions with all the appropriate powers and authorities as bestowed by the Royal Families.
The International Treasury Controller stands above and beyond the likes of the World Bank, IMF, BIS, Fed, and so on, all of whom are subservient to the ITC.

I have never heard such BS as the OITC needs agreement from the Royals and Regulatory Bodies, before. Boy oh boy someone has really been telling you some fairy tales, and it appears that you have really been sucked in by them.

As for the Regulatory Bodies, they are actually legally subservient to the International Treasury Controller as defined within the various International Treaties.
They, the World Bank and IMF were assigned over 3000 MT of Gold each from the Collateral Accounts, when they were incorporated, as their working or operational financial base. That is in addition to what they have stolen or illegally used over decades.

So please get your facts right. If American Lawyer can investigate the subject of the Collateral Accounts and the ITC over several years and come up with the right answers, I’m sure you and others can, but don’t expect to achieve it overnight, or within 5 years, you won’t.

Your statement, quote “I HAVE NO IDEA WHO CLAIMS WHAT OUT THERE AND REALLY NOT INTERESTED.”

DC Well you should be interested because then you would know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth which I have been putting out there for some time for the purpose of educating people so that they don’t make the same mistakes that you and Doug, and several others, have made, some of whom are currently languishing in prison as I write this.

This is the very same truth that American Lawyer has established by his own investigations, which you were cynical and sarcastic about, which was unwarranted and unnecessary.
However, if you don’t want to know the truth, then don’t bother and go about breaking the law at your leisure and expect to be serving a long prison sentence in respect of same.
By the way, under our “Sovereign Laws” the minimum, sentence is 30 years with no parole or time off for good behaviour.

Your statement, quote “HAVING SPENT FIVE YEARS IN CHINA LEARNING THE SECRETS….I HAVE SOME SMALL KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT IS OUT THERE.”

DC Five years, is that all. Good grief, from the way you imply things in your article you are experts. Boy oh boy you know very little in five years, yet from your article you appear to imply that you have great unquestionable knowledge.

You are only learning what somebody else tells you Jerzy, which is NOT Official. Take it from me that your knowledge is far too small for you to be involved with anything to do with the Collateral Accounts.
At the same time, listen to the old adage that “A little knowledge is a dangerous thing”, and it is for you and Doug because whether you acknowledge it or not, you have, and are, breaking the law under International Law and International Treaty Law.

GO TO JAIL, GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL, DO NOT PASS THE ITC‘S OFFICE AND DO NOT COLLECT ANY PAYMENT ON THE WAY.

Your statement, quote “THE OITC IS VERY SECRET AS EVIDENCED BY DAVID AND YOU TALKING ABOUT IT ALL OVER THE INTERNET.”

DC Evidenced by me, YES, because those are .the instructions of the ITC to me.

There is far too much unnecessary SECRECY that surrounds the ITC / OITC and it is changing.

The Private International Treaties will remain SECRET forever, and that is fully understandable.
With the other SECRET factors associated with the ITC / OITC, most of these were put in place, or classified as SECRET by the former TTTGC (1945 – 1995) of which its former members are all Cabal; strictly to cover their illegal activities and stop the public from asking too many questions, or knowing too much.

We do not agree with all this SECRECY whereby The International Treasury Controller does not believe that all documents should be classified SECRET and has declassified many documents for the purpose of breaking this unnecessary SECRECY and exposing what the Cabal have been doing for decades which is totally detrimental to the people of this planet.
The Cabsl know what we are doing and are very scared of losing their position, status, power, etc. They want to keep the people servient, we don’t and we will break their monopoly in due course. It is only a matter of trime.

Yes, we put it all over the Internet because the MSM doesn’t want to know the truth and rarely publishes the truth, so why should we bother with the MSM.

What American Lawyer has published does not carry a SECRECY label, so he is quite in order to publish same.

Your statement, quote “THE CONFERENCE CALLS THAT WE HOLD ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF EXPLAINING CURRENT PROJECT FUNDING STATUS, OR SHOWCASE OF A PROJECT, OR PROVIDING INFORMATION ON THE INTAKE OF HISTORIC ASSETS (SEPARATE LAND DIVISION). ANYBODY CAN CALL IN. WE DO NOT DISCRIMINATE. WE LISTEN AND ANSWER THE BEST WE CAN, AND TREAT EVERYBODY WITH RESPECT. SO WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU ALLUDING TO HERE? WHO ARE YOU? “

DC Another self incriminating statement by you Jerzy. You and Doug are involved with the facilitation of Historic Bonds, stolen from the Collateral Accounts, for the purpose of producing profits in the form of commissions.
You are NOT AUTHORISED by the International Treasury Controller, as Legal Heir, Owner, Sole Arbiter, and Controller of these assets; to undertaken such work / operations and therefore you are acting illegally and contrary to the established laws of the International Treasury Control.

Oh dear, you are in a mess, aren’t you. Self incriminating all the time. Are you really so naïve, as I have met many very naïve people in the past, but to be blunt Jerzy, you really do take the biscuit on this one.

Your statement, quote “AND WHY WOULD DOUG CONTACT THE OITC? WE HAVE NO REQUIREMENT TO DO SO.”

DC Yes you do have a requirement and a responsibility to contact the ITC / OITC because the ITC / OITC are the legal owner of the Historic Bonds you are referring to and because you are involved with others within the GCR and the RV which all derives from the unlawful possession of, and unlawful use of assets owned by the Collateral Accounts.

I keep telling you this but you will probably ignore it all and carry on business as usual because you only believe what you have been told by the Regulatory Bodies that you are involved with, and of course “Grandfather” who has yet to prove to us that he is the Owner, which we know he is not, and so he is probably just a Custodian purporting to be an Owner, with no power or authority, which he is claiming as an Owner.

We have met many people like this before in the past, and to put it bluntly, they are Jokers trying to pull a fast one, not realising that the real facts are all written down in records which are available to us, so their highly dubious and questionable claims must be proven, otherwise he is no better than you or Doug, or any of the other Jokers we have come across.

Your statement, quote “THAT IS WHY THE RESET ELEMENT OF METAL BACKED CURRENCY IS HERE.”

DC That is all BS, Jerzy. The only organisation in the world that holds, and is owner of sufficient Gold and Silver to back currencies, is the International Treasury Controller.
There are western countries that have been stealing Gold from the depositories, which is something they may try to use to back currencies, but that will be short lived because those countries are under increasing pressure to return any stolen Gold or Silver to us so that it can be securely deposited elsewhere, and our asset accounts can be balanced.
Don’t anyone think this will not happen, it will because no one will ever be allowed to illegally use the assets of the Collateral Accounts, so therefore any Gold Backed Currency using our assets without permission or authority will eventually find themselves holding “Fiat
currency”, yet again. What a shock that will be to the world when people who believe they are holding currency with an intrinsic value, are told, Sorry it is not backed by Gold or Silver at all, and you are holding waste paper.

A Gold / Silver backed currency for every country on this planet can only be established by the International Treasury Controller utilising the assets of the Collateral Accounts. No one else holds any authority or power over same and that Jerzy is the true legal position, not the speculative fairy tales that the World Bank, Committee of 300, the IMF, the Fed, and others postulate to you and others.

Your statement, quote “GRANDFATHER AND THE ROYALS HAVE A DIFFERENT VERSION, BUT CLOSE. AND FERDINAND IS ALIVE.”

DC There are several versions. Some are mere BS and others are so distorted they are more misinformation than truth.
Many of these other versions are deliberately adjusted to be an advantage to those who adjust them. They contain an approximate 60% of the truth. The other 40% is misinformation which makes the story more favourable to certain elements for their own personal benefit.

You have probably believe the story you have been told, and therefore nothing else matters in your eyes, and everything, and everyone else is wrong.
Take it from me Jerzy, you have been told only what they want you to know because you are their stooges and “Fall Guys”. Unfortunately you cannot see it, you are completely mesmerised.
Let’s face it, they have conned you so much you and Doug are acting illegally and contrary to International Law and International Treaty Law, but it appears you don’t care. So be, say that to your fellow inmates.

Yes, we know that Ferdinand is alive and living in a small compound in China. However, that doesn’t make any difference because Ferdinand no longer holds any power or authority over same, having legally passed everything to a new M1 on December 20th 1988.
Since then, things have changed, as they always do, and what is relevant is the real situation today and the real laws that are applicable. What agreements, contracts, etc were agreed before January 1995 have now been revoked, rescinded, made void, legally unenforceable., so do not throw the Ferdinand situation in our face as if you are in contact with him and he still has power and authority, because the latter is not the real situation at all.

We are in fact doing Ferdinand’s work / objectives but in a different way to accommodate the substantial rise in corruption, theft and Fraud, etc, within Governments and International Organisations such as the World Bank, IMF, BIS, Federal Reserve. That is so any funds injected into any country from the Collateral Accounts are totally protected and used correctly to benefit the people of the country.

Your statement, quote “I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT KIND OF FOOD AND SHELTER KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TODAY, AND WHAT KIND OF WATER WE ARE DRINKING. THAT IS BY FAR MORE IMPORTANT TO US THAN THESE ASSERTIONS OF GLOBAL DYNAMICS.”

DC That is all very honourable of course, but you are doing this illegally and there is no honour in criminal activities.

There are many people in the world who could be equally honourable if they unlawfully used, in one form or another, someone else’s assets. You only have to look at the Banks to see this happening every day.
There are many hardened criminals who have claimed that they did it to help others, but that doesn’t wash in the courts because the law is the law and if you break it you should expect to be arrested and tried for criminal activities, and serve very long sentences.

“IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE IN THE EYES OF THE LAW”

Your statement, quote “AS I SAID, I AM NOT TERRIBLY INTERESTED, AND I AM FORCED TO LEARN THESE THINGS BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THEM, NOT BY MY CHOICE. I AM MUCH MORE INTERESTED IN RE-BEEING THE DWINDLING BEE POPULATION (FOR EXAMPLE) SO WE CAN KEEP GROWING THINGS. “

DC Oh come off it Jerzy, you will have me crying next.

You are doing this because you like it and you are interested in the money at the end of the day. It gives you a sense of power you never thought you would ever have. It gives you control over something.
Although what you do is illegal and criminal, you are still there doing it.

If you don’t like it then why stick around, go are do your Bee Keeping (Apiary) or whatever, at least you would be able to keep your nose clean and keep yourself out of prison.

I cannot accept your sob story on this one, sorry.

Your statement, quote “WONDERFUL. I AM GLAD DAVID HAS UNDERTAKEN THIS EXTREMELY RESPONSIBLE POST, AND I WISH HIM THE BEST. I WOULD SUPPORT ANYBODY IN THAT ROLE. IT IS THANKLESS, DIFFICULT AT BEST, AND FRAUGHT WITH DANGER. ONLY A TRULY AMAZING AND DEDICATED INDIVIDUAL WOULD UNDERTAKE THAT ROLE. HATS OFF.”

DC Yes, you are correct in what you state here, so thank you for the compliments, they are appreciated, but considering the majority of the content of your response article, I feel that it may just be a little “adding of Sugar” as a sweetener. However, for the moment I will accept it as a compliment.

Your statement, quote “I BEG TO DIFFER. I TALKED WITH ONE OF THE MEN (STILL ALIVE) WHO SET UP THE PROGRAMS. THEY ARE TRADE PROGRAMS. PEOPLE INVESTED MONEY, THE MONEY WAS AGGREGATED, AND ONCE IT REACHED THE REQUIRED AMOUNT, IT WAS PUT INTO THE PROGRAM. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COLLATERAL ACCOUNTS. SO IT IS NOT BS.”

DC You talked with one of the men who set up the programs.

Jerzy, with respect, I have noticed within your article, and also within your regular updates on RMN, that it is “I have talked to”, or, “Doug spoke to”, or “we had a conversation” or similar.
Do you never undertake anything in writing so that you have real proof of what others say, which can then be checked out, because conversations are not admissible evidence in court.
You appear to believe what you are being told is the truth, with no absolute evidence to prove it, which it totally dangerous and certainly not recommended in this game.
You amaze me Jerzy.
Everything I say Jerzy can be backed up by Official Documents, but I see nothing Official or in writing from you except hearsay, speculation, supposition, conjecture, which is no different from the likes of Hudes, Keenan, Scott, Fulford, Wilcox, Drake, and many others, all of who tend to be PRO-CABAL ACTIVISTS.

Take my experience on this. We have met over many years, hundreds of people, from the very top echelons of society to the very bottom, all with similar stories about who they are, what they are, what they have, what they can do, etc, etc, etc.
Especially when it comes to what people refer to as Marcos Assets, Marcos relatives, Yamashita Gold, Soekarno’s assets, etc, etc, etc. Boy can they tell some stories, all poppycock of course. Unfortunately, those stories do gather pace like a snowball rolling down a hill, and many naïve people foolishly believe them and reiterate them to others. You know the old Chinese Whisper syndrome.

I also see, and have heard, from many people who believe speculative stories of quick, easy, and enormous profits, if they invest quickly, or “we are working for God” syndrome and need your financial support. These people are the Prey and the Predators know it. The Predators are cunning, devious, unscrupulous people / organisations who tell plausible lies and con people out of their life savings. Yes, they even sometimes hold Official looking documents to support what they are saying.
You and Doug are no different to the other prey, but you will not see it until it is too late for you.
Boy, the real stories I could tell are not only amazing but abominable where the innocent suffer and the real culprits get away, because the innocent are always the “Fall Guys” but they do not realise it until it’s too late.

It does appear to me that you have placed yourself in the same category, whether deliberately or accidently, because you clearly indicate that you believe what you are told and then you relay it propagate it through to others.

Boy oh boy, have you got a lot to learn about this game, so for what it is worth, take my advice and start learning, and never believe for one minute what you are told by others. Find out the truth from your own thorough investigations, and even take care on that issue because there are those around and within this game who deliberately will give you false information for whatever reason.
Don’t be so naïve or complacent.

Now, I can state to you that the Prosperity Programs WERE based upon the illegal use of assets of the Collateral Accounts, contrary to whatever you have been told by others, whereby the money paid by participants was actually used to paid Lawyers and Corrupt Bankers.
As soon as we became aware that Collateral Assets were involved in these programs, there was a blocking order initiated, whereby no payouts ever occurred, nor will they ever happen. The assets were confiscated and returned to the Collateral Accounts, and any gains accumulated, which were small, were blocked and are still blocked waiting to be passed to the Collateral Accounts when a suitable and non-corrupt bank is appointed to accept these funds. Temporarily, they are lodged within one particular bank with a ‘Block” order against them because they have derived from the illegal use of assets of the Collateral Accounts and as such, legally, the profits belong to the Collateral Accounts.

Your statement, quote “THE CRYSTAL BALL SPEAKETH. NEITHER I NOR DOUG HAVE ANY INTEREST IN THE COLLATERAL ACCOUNTS. YOU CAN KEEP THEM AND PLAY WITH THEM TILL THE COWS COME HOME.:”

DC Oh, the crystal ball again. Well Jerzy, the crystal ball is correct in this instance because whether you like to believe it, and as I have stated earlier in this response, you are illegally involved with Collateral Accounts Assets by facilitating the sale of assets of the Collateral Accounts to the Trust and receiving your commissions, which you have admitted.
This may be direct or indirect, it doesn’t matter. You are complicit in Fraud against the Collateral Accounts, and guilty of Treason against the International Treasury Controller, as a “Sovereign” and the Collateral Accounts as Accounts / Assets being legally owned by a “Sovereign”.

Your statement, quote “INTERESTINGLY, GRANDFATHER TOLD ME HE IS THE OWNER. WHAT SAY YOU? OH RIGHT, YOU OWN THE WORLD. SORRY.”

DC Grandfather told me he is the Owner. How many times have I heard the same thing around the world from those who are, or were, just Custodians, Guardians, or otherwise. Her told you but other than that you have no proof with official documents.
I refer you to the section above as I am not going to constantly repeat myself; which again explains the real situation and the fact that Custodians, Guardians, or otherwise do not have any power or authority.
They can claim what the hell they like, but they have to prove it with Official Documents that can be verified. Owners, Jerzy will have verifiable Official documents as all this is on record so it is easily checked.
Therefore if “Grandfather” is a so claimed Owner, then he has to prove it to us, otherwise he is also in serious trouble.
Officially, I know he cannot prove his ownership, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt at this juncture.

What “Grandfather” might say is irrelevant unless he is a Chinese Royal Family member and holds all the relevant documents as proof, and is registered as the heir descendant of a the original Chinese Royal Family member who was the original beneficiary who will hold Official Documents for same so you should be careful here as we know who the heir descendant is and have previously spoken to that person.

The Chinese Assets, held under several Trusts and Foundations, were legally passed to the Collateral Accounts by the various Royal Families of China, represented by their descendants, by Legal Agreements many years ago.
You can also be absolutely sure that the assets held in China are not of Chinese origin, which are secreted away in other countries. What assets are secreted away in China are assets from other countries so there is no legal right to other peoples / countries assets.
All of this is in compliance with the 1920 London Treaty and the 1929 Revisions and Amendments to the London Treaty.

Your statement, quote” IF THE OITC CAN GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER AND START MAKING A DIFFERENCE FOR OUR HUMANITY, THEN GOOD. IN THE MEANTIME, WE ARE HERE. IT WILL TAKE MORE THAN JUST US TO DO THIS JOB, AND I TRULY DO HOPE TO SEE THE OITC COME ALIVE AND DO WHAT YOU SAY THEY WOULD DO. “

DC What do you mean, “Get our act together”. I take that as an insult because although you are aware of us, you don’t have a clue as to how we are operating, or what we are doing. Nor do you understand the amount of work involved, especially investigating and chasing crooks who are stealing and / or utilising the assets of the Collateral Accounts, which includes you and Doug.

The Governing Bodies, as you refer to them, have placed every possible obstacle in our way to stop us, but they haven’t succeeded, but they still keep coming and we still knock them down, and we are still doing what we should be doing but we don’t tell anyone about it because you can be absolutely certain that the World Bank, IMF, BIS, Federal Reserve, and others, will try to derail it in one way or another.

To be blunt, yet again, we have met with many senior and junior officers of the World Bank in years past, and I wouldn’t give them a job even sweeping the floors. They are totally lacking in common sense, they don’t know what they are doing, or how they should be doing it. They are there because it is good salary, fringe benefits, and good pensions and that is all they want because they would never get a job in the real world.

They are fearful because our recognition Internationally will see their demise and extinction, which in my opinion is badly needed and how it should be because of their corrupt activities and policies which have, and are, ruining countries and from which the people suffer.

My writing these articles and responding to other articles is just part of the whole operation, staffed by good quality, dedicated, spiritual people, who give their all to help the world and its people, and we are helping them, but we do it direct as we will not place money in the hands of any Government, any Commercial Bank, or any of these International Organisations, because they are all excessively corrupt. However, as you have stated several times, in one form or another, quote “I HAVE NO IDEA WHO CLAIMS WHAT OUT THERE AND REALLY NOT INTERESTED.”, so why do you bother Jerzy to even state what you have above, as you are not really interested. A total contradiction by you Jerzy.

Your statement, quote “WHAT WE DO IN INTRODUCING THE HOLDERS AND KEEPERS OF THE HISTORIC ASSETS TO THE TRUST IS NOT ILLEGAL”

DC YES IT IS ILLEGAL because you hold no authority from the International Treasury Controller to undertake such matters.
You think and believe like many others. It’s a commercial operation and you can get in on the act and make money.

Such assets are purposely secreted away in depositories and are never to see the light of day, as the corresponding value has already been credited to numerous Bank Accounts around the World. It is the Bank Accounts that are usable, not the physical assets as they must remain secreted away forever. In the commercial world none of these physical assets hold any value to anyone, except criminals of course.
They can only be used by, or with authority from, the International Treasury Controller.

That is how it was set up based upon the 1920 / 1929 London Treaty, but you and Doug, like many others, are facilitating crooks who are stealing these assets, whether they are Holders, Custodians, Guardians, is irrelevant, as they hold no legal rights or authority whatsoever, but you and Doug are facilitating them, so you are COMPLICIT IN THEFT AND FRAUD AGAINST THE COLLATERAL ACCOUNTS AND THE INTERNATIONAL TREASURY CONTROLLER, but you don’t even understand that fact. It is business to you and Doug and a chance to earn good money from the so-called Governing Bodies so they can destroy the Bonds and hopefully deny the debt because there is no evidence.

By the way, I am a Lawyer of some 45 years standing, and I am no idiot, and I will also state that American Lawyer in what he states, after his many years of research and investigations, is also no idiot.
Don’t under-estimate me, Jerzy because that will be another big mistake you will make.

So please Jerzy, don’t come that old game with me because I have seen and experienced much in my life, and I know where you and Doug are coming from, and it sute as hell ain’t to save Humanity.

You can deny this all you want, but it won’t do you any good because you have already self- incriminated yourselves within your response to American Lawyer’s article.

Your statement, quote “ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE OITC WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND, NOT BEING PUBLIC LIKE THIS SWISSINDO M1, NEIL KEENAN’S “ELDERS”, AND OTHERS”

DC And you know only what you have been told. In other words HEARSAY Jerzy, HEARSAY.

When will you learn and what does it take for you to learn?
Whether the ITC / OITC remains SECRET or comes out into the open is one that can only be made by the International Treasury Controller, not you or anyone else.

Considering the SECRECY factor has been used to its maximum by the Cabal, the TTTGC, and all those other Governing Bodies you talk about, to hide the truth from the people, and hide the massive amount of Fraud and Theft they have been conducting over decades, The decision was made, wisely in my opinion, to open up and become more public without breaching any International Official Secrets Acts, and that is what we are doing, so that people can now realise that their suffering, both present and past, is man made by the Cabal, the TTTGC, and all those other Governing Bodies you talk about, and that has got to stop.

An example of this is the Global Settlements Agreement initiated by Ferdinand Marcos, executed by 175 countries, legal registered and recorded within the United Nations, but it has never been implemented.

That is the very reason why Ferdinand Marcos met his demise. He was more powerful than the Cabal, the TTTGC, and all those other Governing Bodies you refer to, and they didn’t like it, nor did they like the fact that every country in the world would have been totally financially independent, so he had to go, just like JFK.

Jerzy, you really have no idea about what you speak, so do not go around criticising others and being arrogant and sarcastic because you do not have any grounds to stand on in respect of the subject matter.

Your statement, quote “HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE US OF STEALING FROM THE ACCOUNTS WHILE CHILDREN ARE STARVING TO DEATH? WHO ARE YOU? WHAT IS YOUR PROOF WE ARE DOING THIS OTHER THAN AIR LEAKING OUT OF YOUR PIN HEAD? OUR 3 MAIN FOCAL POINTS ARE CHILDREN, SENIORS AND WATER. ANY AMOUNT OF DUE DILIGENCE ON US WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU THIS, AND YET HERE YOU ARE BLOWING SMOKE. WHAT A GREAT DUMP TRUCK YOU BE. AND I ALREADY EXPLAINED ABOVE THAT THE HISTORIC ASSETS ARE BEING DISCHARGED BY THE TRUST UNDER THE 01-4 PROTOCOL, WHICH I AM SURE YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF. ABSOLUTELY SURE. YOU ARE PARROTING INFORMATION GIVEN TO YOU FROM ELSEWHERE, AND SINCE YOU DO NOT KNOW ALL THE DETAILS, YOU FILL THEM IN EITHER BY WAY OF THE CRYSTAL BALL OR DARTBOARD METHOD. BRILLIANT. “

DC How can you ever justify your verbal attack on others when they know a hell of a lot more about the subject matter than you.
You are tending to use Keenan’s tactics here which is sheer arrogance and self indulging procastrination without any grounds or foundation whatsoever.
What you are stating within your statement is what really applies to you and Doug.

I have every respect for American Lawyer who has really done his investigations and has come up with the truth. If he can do it, with no help from us, then others can do it, including you and Doug, so instead of “Lamb-Blasting” American Lawyer and his perfectly correct content, you should be using him as a good example to follow.

However, I am obviously asking too much of you both, in this case.

Your statement, quote “YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW IF THE NEW SECRET M1 (THAT WAS CHOSEN BY THE ROYALS A FEW MONTHS BACK) IS MALE OR FEMALE”

DC This something I had to read twice because I could not believe what I was reading in the first place.
Ha, now you are clearly telling me what fools you are, believing what you are told.

I will also hazard a bet that this NEW SECRET M1 was appointed by the World Bank / Committee of 300.
What an absolute joke, but a bad one at that. A NEW SECRET M1, then you are no better than Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck.

The M1 position is a position of succession only within the bloodline.

Ferdinand Marcos was M1 until he legally passed the M1 position on 20th December 1988, to another Royal Family member of the bloodline, who, by legal rights assigned the M1 position to the new International Treasury Controller, also a Royal Family descendant who holds that position to this day. All of those persons are Humanitarian in their character, and want the Collateral Accounts to be used for the benefit of Humanity, and that is exactly what we are doing, and will do, and will follow in Marcos’s footsteps to achieve it.

THERE IS NO NEW SECRET M1 AT ALL, so stop the gossip and propagation of same, because there is no way that anyone else can appoint a NEW SECRET M1. This is all BS and you should know that. If you don’t and you believe what you have been told, then more fool you.

The current, and existing M1 is the International Treasury Controller, and that is real fact and legally provable.

Mr. Sino, Swiss Indo, of Indonesia (Surname --------- Soegihartonotonegoro.St) was also a person who claimed he was M1, King of Kings. That didn’t go far. Neither will your claim.
The sooner these idiots of the Regulatory Bodies you refer to stop playing their little games, and start to face reality, and then cooperate, the sooner this world will be a better place to live for all.
When I think about it, we really have got these idiots shaking in their shoes haven’t we, because they keep coming up with these ridiculous obstructions, and we keep knocking them down. They must be very worried about our strength and what we are capable of, and so they should be, because we are not going to let go at any time.

HOW GULLIBLE IS GULLIBLE --------------- UNTIL IT REACHES THE POINT OF TOTAL ABSURBITY.

Even Fulford is giving out this BS, so read my response to his latest article.

Your statement, quote “KEENAN AND FULFORD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH LANDA OR HUMANUS.”

DC You could have fooled me. You rant and rave with your arrogance just like Keenan, and your claims are so similar to Fulford’s that there has to be some connection somewhere because it is too much of a coincidence to be a coincidence.

You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.

Your statement, quote “WE ARE NOT PROTECTED BY THE CIA, AND WE ARE NOBODY’S LACKEYS. “

DC Well you certainly speak and act just like many rogue CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) agents that we have come across. The similarities are too obvious to ignore or dispel. This fact is too much of a coincidence to be a coincidence.

Your statement, quote “THAT HE (Meaning Doug) HAS TALKED TO HIGH LEVEL PEOPLE THAT TALK TO THE OITC, AND HAS ALSO FOUND OUT FOR HIMSELF THAT THE OITC IS A VALID ENTITY WITH RESPONSIBILITY, SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HERE? “

DC Yes, we are a valid entity holding “Sovereign” status and with our own jurisdiction.

That is exactly what we have been telling people, but there are still those persons who deny us and unnecessarily and unwarrantedly create problems for us.

Your statement, quote “I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS. IS THIS ANOTHER FICTION CREATED BY YOU?

DC No, because you have not undertaken what should have been undertaken before you started in all of this. Had you done so you would know the truth and you would not be committing illegal acts against the Collateral Accounts.

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I think that is enough for now for which you may have learned something for a change, or maybe not.

As I have stated previously herein, I have spoken with the ITC for 5 hours on this response of yours, but more so on the self – incriminating statements of yours.
I am requested by the ITC to inform you in the strongest possible way to Cease and Desist in your activities against the Collateral Accounts and contact the ITC on …….. Chairman@theunoitc.org ………………

Should you fail to adhere to the above, a Formal and Official Cease and Desist Notice / Order will be issued against you, which, if necessary will be enforced.

Up to you now as to whether you cooperate or eventually find yourselves languishing in our new, minus 2 star prison.

Regards

David P. Crayford
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link to Jerzy's article in question:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=46340

Thanks to: http://www.rumormillnews.com



  

Red Panda

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David Crayford may or may not be legit, but he sounds more legit than Zap/Jerzy.  Will be interesting to see if the C & D that will inevitably filed will  have any effect.

The WHOIS of the website http://www.unoitc.org has an address listed of 1133 Connecticut Avenue, Washington, DC 20036. 

This is an office building in DC. 

If The Office of International Treasury Control does exist at that address, that is one up on Landa China Global and Humanus, who do not have an office, despite their connections to those holding significant wealth.

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yes. and he is going after Fulford also. and Keenan quits because he is being asked questions he does not want to answer. looks like they are being looked at by others besides just alt blogs :) finally



  

Red Panda

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Wikipedia states "The UN and Federal Reserve have denied any knowledge of or connection with OITC.[1][2] The purpose of the hoax is unknown."

Will be interesting to see if anything further develops, or if this Crayford is as full of hot air as Jerzy is.

Regarding a C & D, I found one in an antifraud forum (here) that was issued to Neil Keenan several years ago, but that didn't seem to affect him in any way that I am aware of.

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