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1 Todays vote...Brexit on Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:34 am


At the time of writing it is nearly midday in England. All those I have spoken to both locally and across the country say the polling stations are heaving with people.

The actual result of this referenda is actually quite irrelevant as the EU is dying. It just means if they fiddle the vote the terminal exit of the EU will take just a little longer.

The significance of a leave vote has been greatly understated. If the gates to freedom from servitude, bought in by lies and stealth can be opened then most of Europe will follow.

Some are openly calling for release from the eurosoviet right now.

Besides, we may even find a film industry sprouting shoots again and then.....

We will make a film called independence day that will outsell Will Smiths version ;-)

"आप सिर्फ यह है आप नहीं था क्या मतलब है यह देखने के लिए किया था"

2 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:13 am


Just read it is to close to call so let us know when you get the info!


3 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:44 am


It will between 2am and 6am GMT when they cal it, assuming no recounts etc.

This to close to call thing they are dribbling to the media.....the facts are pollsters are making it up as they go. Couple that with who runs the media and you have more fear factor crud.

In short the bad weather will put a few off and fingers crossed they will all be they luvvies and NWO supporter types who like little dave, think it's all in the bag.

I know of one personally who thinks leaving is a bad idea, and he was resigned to the "suck it up buttercup" prospect of Auf Wiedersehen, Tschüss, Tschüssi, unt Gute Nacht to the Queen Hun in Berlin months ago.

If voting happens the way people have said they will vote then little dave will be very sad in 12 hrs time. 

No person and no nation got anywhere by being scared so as the delightful Victoria Nuland said


It is rather rude and the act of a cad to disagree with a lady in public and I have no wish to :-)

"आप सिर्फ यह है आप नहीं था क्या मतलब है यह देखने के लिए किया था"

4 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:28 pm


We shall see.......Leaving the EU would rock the world...and will they even agree to it...Will they change the vote count?

5 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:50 pm


topspin2 wrote:will they even agree to it...Will they change the vote count?

Nope and yes they will try, nothing is to low for these people to stoop to.

Look at the circus they made out of the dead MP, it's happened before when Diana died and yes Blair is an "advisor" to little dave.

The things is Tops, the lid is off Pandoras box. France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Holland, Spain, Scandinavian counties are all making noises about getting out. Holland is estimated at 80%.

Whatever the result this false abomination the EU will not live much longer. I and others like me have waited for the day for years, if England (Scotland, Wales, and NI will vote remain) says out then watch the proverbial hit the fan.

Already certain positioning has gone on from EU flunkies in Parliament

"it's not legally binding"

"we are sovereign and will decide to ignore the vote"

"it's not a mandate"

etc etc etc

They play that game at their peril, plus if the Scots demand to be the tail wagging the dog and go for "independence" the "United Kingdom" is gone. 

All in all out of the EU and rid of win situation

"आप सिर्फ यह है आप नहीं था क्या मतलब है यह देखने के लिए किया था"

6 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:13 pm




7 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:37 pm



British Establishment Rigs BREXIT Referendum Before It Even Occurs

Posted on June 23, 2016 by
British Establishment Rigs BREXIT
Referendum Before It Even Occurs

Every major politician in the U.K. has spoken out forcefully,
to the point of outright fear-mongering over the past month.
All the British power-brokers and pawns, as well as numerous
corporate CEOs and business magnates, supported BREMAIN.

The Millennium Report
Special Note:
Isn’t is interesting to see how virtually every highly controversial poll or vote or referendum stacks up in such a way that the odds hover close to 50/50 either way?  That’s not the way the poll was actually evolving; rather, it’s how the MSM spins it as the voting date gets closer.  The instant case of BREXIT  is no different.  The BREXIT side was leaving BREMAIN in the dust, but then with the Jo Cox murder the polls mysteriously started to tighten … according to the manipulative MSM.  This is exactly how they always do it.  The fabricated polling data provides the fixers with plausible deniability about fixing the vote tally.  The agents of the NWO work this version of poll smoke and mirrors like a charm, as they have practically forever.  Manufacturing fake consent is what they do best. When the final votes are tallied, the NWO cabal will always point to the fraudulent polls that were supposedly taken just prior to the voting day.  How convenient!
Now, again, how do you spell:  P L A U S I B L E   D E N I A B I L I T Y ?
The crucial understanding here is that the NWO cabal just may fully comprehend the utter danger associated with sabotaging a legitimate BREXIT.  The people of Europe are really pissed.  If this vote is outright stolen from the BREXIT supporters, they will become enraged … and then emboldened. Not only will their collective rage be directed at the City of London, it will be projected at Brussels as well.  Much more importantly, however, such a poll theft will be viewed across the Eurozone as an assault against the citizenry of every member nation of the European Union. The French will rebel next, followed by the Dutch. What will happen after that is anyone’s guess, but it’s likely to get very, VERY ugly.
It will be a bloody miracle if the BREXIT crowd wins the day today—Thursday, June 23, 2016.
The most accurate and high integrity polling data indicates that BREXIT has a very comfortable lead.  However, the government working in concert with the London press and corporate class[1] have worked overtime to deliberately misrepresent the true data.
The desperate BREMAIN side conscripted virtually every major British politician in sight — former, present and future — to speak vociferously on behalf of the ‘necessity’ of BREMAIN.
The British Government has in fact allocated more resources to ensure a BREXIT loss than it did to rig the Scottish referendum back on 18 September 2014.  It is well known that that vote was totally rigged, too, as the Scots are still fuming over it.

The bookies always know the real deal.

‘Something Strange Emerges When Looking Behind The “Brexit” Bookie Odds’ — ZH
There is perhaps no better indication of the outcome of any poll held anywhere in the United Kingdom than the bookie odds.  The Brits are world famous for betting on EVERYTHING.  They are such inveterate gamblers that the City of London’s notorious Financial District has turned the entire global marketplace into a worldwide gambling casino.[2]  What’s the point?
These guys are good!  They’re very good at what they do.  And what they do best is acquire privileged info — insider information if you will — as well as highly classified intel with which to make their BIG betting decisions.  This crowd will not take risks with the smart money as the world’s wealthy and powerful will not take kindly to losing.  Most of them only got rich by correctly playing the rigged markets over decades.
Every Single Bloody Market Is Manipulated … See For Yourself
With this critical understanding, it is extremely rare that the betting parlors in London get it wrong … … … except by very calculated design.
And that’s not a hedge!  It’s an historical fact.  Those who truly run the markets from behind the curtain know EVERYTHING! EVERYWHERE!  ALL THE TIME!

More precisely, it is the Hidden Hand that really controls the financial markets in the City of London.  That Hidden Hand is the very same one that rigged the original stock markets that vigorously bet on the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo.  As follows:
The bottom line to this discussion is that the banksters never lose unless it is by quite purposeful design.  When an event is so highly consequential to Great Britain, the European Union, and the Global Economic & Financial System, the final outcome has been precisely scripted all the more.  The profound repercussions and far-reaching ramifications of a BREXIT are simply too great for the ruling elites to not [perfectly] control the fixed vote tally.

A BREXIT would harpoon the NWO agenda like no other event.

For the uninitiated the superstate known as the European Union (EU) is the key cog in the New World Order machine.  It is the prototype for economic unions and political alliances which have been planned for centuries to replace the traditional nation-states.  The EU was actually meant to set a ‘glowing’ (not glaring) example for the upcoming North American Union (NAU).
A Successful BREXIT Will Scuttle the NWO Plan For One World Government
Just as the open European borders dictated by the EU Shengen policy have significantly weakened national sovereignty throughout Europe, so, too, has the US southwestern border seriously compromised the  territorial integrity of the United States of America.  In both cases these policies were quite deliberately put into place by the NWO cabal. The dramatic influx of illegal aliens, war refugees and economic immigrants  is being used as a means to ready the American people for the NAU … just as the Europeans have been force-fed the same via the dictatorial Eurocrats in Brussels.
The critical point here is that TPTB would never let such a sabotage of the European Union project to occur.  They have spent decades and billions of dollars painstakingly force-fitting it into place.  The EU is not only the cornerstone, but also the precursor of their planned One World Government.  Such an integral enterprise is never allowed to be scuttled unless there is a really hidden agenda that belies the overarching NWO scheme … that virtually no one knows about.
Make no mistake about it:

BREXIT = “Breaks It”

(Source: BREXIT: The Biggest Trigger Event of the Decade)

Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson

There are two extremely courageous Brits who have taken on the whole bloody British System who ought to be pointed out … and highly commended.  UKIP’s Nigel Farage was the real fire-starter.  Quite fortuitously, he was a former commodities broker in London who knows firsthand how the marketplace really works.  The commodities market is perhaps the most manipulated in the world because of how easily it can be used as a weapon of mass destruction.  Certainly, Farage saw the underbelly of the commodity trading beast at its very worst.  This education prepared him to speak, as no one else in the world, about the ills and excesses of the nakedly totalitarian nature of the NWO’s globalization scheme.
Likewise, Boris Johnson has been an exceedingly powerful voice in favor of BREXIT.  As a former mayor of London, he, too, saw how the world really turns.  He especially saw how the many NWO minions throughout the City of London Financial District march to the beat of the Globalist drummer.  The fabricated immigration problem that the U.K. suffers from was particularly vexing to him because he saw — even as mayor — that he had no control, that he had no influence whatsoever over London’s massive influx of economic immigrants.  What he especially took note of was the total loss of power which was insidiously taking place across the entire political class of the United Kingdom.


If the BREXIT vote is not totally rigged, it will be a bloody miracle.
If BREMAIN is not victorious, then a paradigm-shattering display of full-blown deus ex machina will have taken place.
The people of Great Britain are by far the most enslaved and controlled on the planet. They have suffered greatly under the heel of the NWO ruling cabal.  British society has reeled from some of the most draconian laws and inhumane policies and laws on Earth.  Yes, it’s that bad and most Brits don’t even know it.  However, this is exactly where the planetary civilization is being taken.
Which is why the likelihood of a BREXIT is extremely low, despite the vast majority of citizens who will be voting for it.  About that, there is no doubt.  The British people desperately want out of the political tyranny and economic prison known as the European Union.  According to the hard polling data just prior to the cynical murder of MP Jo Cox, the Brits want out bad and they want out now.
Let’s see how PM Cameron and his NWO pols will spin it.
Oh, yeah, the UK mainstream media doesn’t do exit polling data for referendums.  Gee, we wonder why not?!?!
The Millennium Report
June 23, 2016
Editor’s Note
The Millennium Report does not have a crystal ball.  We do not yet know the outcome of this referendum.  However, if BREXIT does prevail, then either one of two things has occurred: the NWO game plan has changed radically in the face of so much overwhelming popular opposition to the European Union. Or, the Universe itself has weighed in on the matter.  In other words, the real “Hidden Hand”, sometimes known as the Supreme Being and/or God Almighty, has decided to vote.  Now that would be an awesome demonstration of deus ex machina!
[1]  “REMAIN campaign funded by Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and Morgan Stanley”
[2] EU Referendum Odds As Brexit Set To Be Most Betted-On Event In British Political History

EU Exposé: A Planned Totalitarian Superstate to Destroy Europe

The European Union Project Was Designed to
Obliterate Every European Culture and Nation

Thanks to:


8 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:07 pm



4am GMT and little dave must be very worried

Average 70% turnout and despite early results from Scotland common sense prevailing


Scotland In

Wales Out

England out

Those voting remain in England tending to be those who are doing very well from the EU, the wealthy and mainly cities 

Everyone else out

Voting close but trending to a leave result.

At this point it is a wonderful feeling watching these pompous flatulent sacks of self serving bullshit saying we must listen harder. 

Talk of little dave resigning and a sbap general election flying about

If I can stay awake will post more later

"आप सिर्फ यह है आप नहीं था क्या मतलब है यह देखने के लिए किया था"

9 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:11 pm



"आप सिर्फ यह है आप नहीं था क्या मतलब है यह देखने के लिए किया था"

10 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:54 pm


BBC and Sky conceding leave EU has won..!!


"आप सिर्फ यह है आप नहीं था क्या मतलब है यह देखने के लिए किया था"

11 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:34 am


LINK to Referendum Results  Looks like they managed to pull it off and get out of the EU...
  My question though, will they actually do it or drag the departure out much like the GCR/RV ??

One thing for sure, "The Times They are Changin"  (you kids may not remember Bob Dillon, lol )

'Tis better to be thought a fool,than to speak and remove all doubt.
     Love,Laughter & Prosperity...  :Santa 3: 

12 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:10 am


NOTHING would ever drag on as long as the RV has!

It's the simple things, small every day deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love.......~Gandalf~

13 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:55 am



CONGRATS!!... I think....


14 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:36 pm


And with Cammron stepping down... I see that as a 'Twofer' , getting rid of both. jmho :)

'Tis better to be thought a fool,than to speak and remove all doubt.
     Love,Laughter & Prosperity...  :Santa 3: 

15 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:50 pm




16 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:55 pm


A BREXIT would harpoon the NWO agenda like no other event.

Or this would catapult the NWO towards the exact direction they are seeking......Time will tell my friends, time will tell....

17 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:35 pm



What a 24 hrs that was.

At the bottom of this post I will throw some links which are interesting reading of slightly different viewpoints. So where are we now?

The same as we were yesterday and yes that sounds confusing so let me explain.
There is a two year EU wriggle room clause in play. A lot can happen in a week and more in two years but....

As some of these articles succinctly say, others denied a voice now want their say, in particular those directly affected by Merkels act of genius of inviting a flood of predatory savages into Europe, TB, other diseases, rapes, looting, and various crime waves. The fetid stinking EU is dead.

Most of western Europe wants out.

Europe has seen the EU can be beat in the same way India saw the British army could be humiliated in 1941 Singapore (not the armys fault though it was the cretin in charge and Londons belief in it's own infallibility) and Europe will take the EU off life support

No person and no nation has ever prospered from being scared, the EU is nothing than a massive financial, emotional, and spiritual vampire. Today it had a stake rammed up it's ass and a garlic enema.

Sure there will be bumps in the road, real ones and punishment ones, the petulant children will lose.

That arse little dave has destroyed his own future in politics by being a provider of scare, fear, and stupidity.

Europe as a continent has to rise from the events of 1918 and 1945 and do what they did before, protect their borders, protect their women, protect their heritage and culture. Trade will happen regardless what fantasy comes from any capitol city.

I stayed awake and watched history happen. For the first time in my lifetime I felt the spiritual presence of my ancestors rise and act through us. I am of an age where I knew no Imperial power for it had passed. What I felt was something far greater.....self achieved freedom.

It is rather moresome and very agreeable,  I highly recommend it

"आप सिर्फ यह है आप नहीं था क्या मतलब है यह देखने के लिए किया था"

18 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:07 am


And correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read something about Parliment needing to actually approve the decision of the referendum and impliment any negotiations etc. Soooo this is far from a done deal, but the hammer has been droped on the EU... Pitty anyone trying to get in the way now.

   Sooo how do you think the next vote will go with Ireland and/or Scotland breaking away from the UK ??   Just a thought. 

'Tis better to be thought a fool,than to speak and remove all doubt.
     Love,Laughter & Prosperity...  :Santa 3: 

19 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:31 am


Hello Marty

There is no simple short answer to what you ask.

Do they need to approve this?

Possibly there is a constitutional caveat that states it must be approved by Parliament but I can't say for sure. You can be assured somewhere in the millions of hours devoted to this online the answer is prominent. They WILL approve this decision, it may take a while as some try to twist and turn, steal the result or overturn it but it WILL go through no matter how much it sticks in their guts.

You may not be aware that blair and little dave introduced a petition Parliament system that states

if an online petition achieves more than 100,000 signatures then it must be debated in Parliament IF APPROVED AND NOT REJECTED by HM Govt

Today a petition to ignore this result and have another referenda has been forwarded to Parliament with over a million names

This now puts Parliament in a very difficult position

This referenda result in England was won by disenfranchised and disaffected Labour voters, in fact despite all the circus about the dead MP, the flowers, the martyrdom, the flowers, the false everything about it for cynical exploitation of the remain camp failed. Her constituency is solid Labour, they voted out.

Europe depending on their views have said well done or good riddance. A second referenda will not sit well there with either side and will create more pressure than what there is already for other nations to get out. As I write the anti EU leaders of Europe are all over RT offering congratulations and demanding out for their nations.

The EU drones are all looking very, very, unhappy in Brussells

As for the former yookay, Corbyn and his shadow chancellor McDonnell have a massive problem.
It was traditional (mainly) Labour areas that carried the day, against what the Labour party campaigned for. As Corbyn was ELECTED BY THE MEMBERSHIP to change the Labour party and disinfect the blair virus from it some of the blairites have now put forward a motion of no confidence in Corbyn (little dave jumped before his party could do that to him) and Corbyn has now to act.

He and McDonnell I am told have publicly stated anyone signing this petition

"needs to grow up" "the result is in and its over"

Because Marty if Parliament accept this petition, and debate it (they are obligated to do so if accepted) they must reject it. If this petition, created by self, spite, fear, and many other negative emotions is passed then.....every future (and maybe 2015 as well) election can be challenged by anyone not agreeing to the result.

Can you imagine?

Labour cannot support this for all the reasons said above, Parliamentary tories who support the EU are now outnumbered and irrelevant.

And Scotland whom voted almost to a Mcman to get out WILL be going again for Independence. I sincerely hope they get it.

The Brexit vote has been underestimated, hugely underestimated for what it means to the planet.
What many consider to be a small insignificant country has broken the mould. As I said previously about Singapore 1941 in comparison. Europe has seen this sprawling unaccountable undemocratic false EU sickness beaten at it's own game. Now a way out from the EU has not only been shown but taken others are walking the same path.

Scotland will want to join the EU, no question about it. In years to come they will see that by biting the hand that fed them, jumping ship to side with a monster that will soon die was not the wisest move. They have Royally pi**ed off the English for years, more so since the time of Blair. 

Ireland and NI?

Much more complicated Marty, sectarian divides and gangsterism.
They would be much better off as one nation but....having known many ex army who were there it is unlikely to happen based on what they say about hate being taught to babies on both sides.

Would not like to begin to guess what will happen with Ireland/NI

"आप सिर्फ यह है आप नहीं था क्या मतलब है यह देखने के लिए किया था"

20 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:50 am


I understand a few things like this below are circulating, just to add more spice to the mix.

For the record I do not share the unthinking servitude and adoration to Madge other do. I am not endorsing the sycophantic elements but do endorse the legal ones.

This was found in inbox earlier


Her Most Britannic Queen Elizabeth II Albert Burgess
Buckingham Palace


Your subjects have handed you back your ancient Kingdom after successive Parliaments have implemented the constitutional impossibility of keeping you a citizen of Europe, which is to imagine your Majesty’s death as a fully Sovereign Queen of England from which all your other titles supremacies and superiorities flow.

To imagine your death as a fully Sovereign Queen is high treason contrary to the 1351 Treason Act which is still fully on the statute books.

Majesty the politicians who attempted this constitutional impossibility and who attempt to perpetuate it are by any definition guilty of High Treason against your Majesty’s Person.

Majesty your loyal subjects and the vast majority of us are loyal to your Majesty, and you and your family are greatly loved by us. So much so that we have rejected the lies and threats made by David Cameron representing government policy. We your subjects rejected these lies and threats even from the President of America and Europe’s top diplomates, we did this to hand you your Crown back wear it as a Queen of England should the first Elizabeth should be your guide.

Majesty every major political party in this your Kingdom has signed up to the above treason against you our much loved and respected Queen. I would most humbly ask that you dissolve this treasonable assembly and call an election to give us the chance to clean up politics 310 of the 635 members of parliament are known to have defrauded us with their expense’s claims. Yet your Majesty’s police failed to make a single arrest for these criminal acts, until your Majesty’s subjects in a cry of national outrage forced them to make five specimen arrests. The streets of your Majesty’s Kingdom are being taken over by hordes of barbarian Muslims flexing their muscle whilst your Majesty’s chief officers of police play scrabble or whatever useless thing they while away their day with instead of upholding your Majesty’s law. To a man/woman they need sacking without a pension everyone is in breach of the scared oath they took to your Majesty.

Majesty all this nonsense that you are not allowed to comment publically on government policy is arrant nonsense this is your Kingdom at your Coronation we handed our individual sovereignty to you to use on our behalf and only ever in our best interests, if I had a £ for every time someone had said to me why doesn’t the Queen do something I would be living in luxury in the Cayman Islands. Majesty you are put there to lead this your Kingdom you have a clear duty to tell us your opinion on things affecting this Kingdom it is your Kingdom but it is also our home. When they asked Enoch Powel a great Englishman and patriot what right do you have to say these things? He replied “I do not have the right not to say them”. Majesty you do not have the right not to tell us what you in your heart believe is either good or bad for us. You most definitely do not have the right to surrender our birth right as a free people to any other power on or off this planet.

I understand the politicians who are largely in favour of Europe are talking about another referendum. Majesty your subjects have spoken you have no option but to say no more referendums on this matter will be taken. The House of Commons claim sovereignty lays with them it does not, ultimate sovereignty lies with you and only with you. Their claim to Sovereignty is treason.

Majesty your subjects will support you all the time please take back your Kingdom dissolve Parliament ban from public office all current members of both houses bring back the hereditary Peerage they served us well for hundreds of years. Take the construction of Parliament to the way our forefathers built it with checks and balances. Remove the automatic assent . Remove all naturalised subjects from all offices of public trust in conformity with the 1701 Act of Succession and the common and constitutional laws and the custom and practice of this your most ancient Kingdom.
Respectfully submitted

Albert Burgess
Your Most Loyal subject
Cc Prince Charles
Princess Anne
Prince Andrew
Prince Edward
Prince William
Prince Harry

"आप सिर्फ यह है आप नहीं था क्या मतलब है यह देखने के लिए किया था"

21 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:12 pm


Hi bs4ever,  Thanks so much for your input. It's dificult for those of us on the outside looking in to fully understand the impact and intricasies of what all is going on. I believe some at least of the Sheeple are beginning to wake up to the idea that just because having organization of individual areas (cities, towns, countys, states, etc.) does not mean that incorperating those all into larger Corperations (states, countries, continents, etc.) under a single Rule/Ruler is a good or beneficial structure. On the larger scale, it has been shown to be unsustainable. The Top end gets greedy and looses sight of the needs of the lower ends.
  One thing I see clearly out of all this mud is how the plight and circumstances your experiencing now are mirrored here in the US and many other places around the globe. It's sad to me, the necessity to take many steps backwords after so much progress was initially made.
  So the next question becomes somewhat obvious, Does history just repeat itself again with new names on the door, or do we actually learn something from history and chart a new course ?? 

'Tis better to be thought a fool,than to speak and remove all doubt.
     Love,Laughter & Prosperity...  :Santa 3: 

22 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:00 pm


@Topsin I was wondering the exact same thing about the NWO, is this the beginning!?

It's the simple things, small every day deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love.......~Gandalf~

23 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:03 pm


On somewhat the same thought Nan. Did anyone see the post by J.C. Collins that was on Recaps?
Here's the Link to the post. This of course is something that has been knawing in the back of my mind since I began waking up... You know just when you thought you might actually be making some real progress in change, you find out that you've been duped, AGAIN !  Kinda like GroundHog Day, Over and Over and Over again.    grrrr bat boy 

'Tis better to be thought a fool,than to speak and remove all doubt.
     Love,Laughter & Prosperity...  :Santa 3: 

24 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:18 am


If one believes that there is going to be justice in the world then this has legs. I for one do not, as I believe that the elite are that good....This has been in the works for  decades and they will now move the corporate money making machine to the far east. The US has peaked as an investment for them and China awaits. Much as Japan peaked so has EU and the US, and as Japan was brought to its knees, so will the US and the EU.......The only question is how....They have fracked the very foundation of this country....shattered earthquake that would cause harm will now be greatly enhanced by the already cracked earth....and with scaler technology they can produce their own we wait....and yes, THEY ARE THAT GOOD!!!!!!! They have no souls!   Which means death means nothing to them.......and there is more to that story, but that is for another day..

25 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:48 pm


Hey Top,  Like most people I have fears and hopes. Your scenario though highly possible and perhaps likely is for sure one of my fears, though my hope is that it wont turn out as they plan. Without hope I see little reason to continue with anything...
  "Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst"  There will always be good and evil, neither is infalable. If there were only one, how would you know what you have?
  It is said that everything is written, not having that information though pretty much negates the premise, it doesn't really matter if it was written or not if we don't know about it...

'Tis better to be thought a fool,than to speak and remove all doubt.
     Love,Laughter & Prosperity...  :Santa 3: 

26 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:44 pm


Nice to read your thoughts Marty...I learned years ago that these guys are so far ahead of us that very little if anything happens without their approval...They have replaced conventional weapons with words and satellites. They know all Marty.....and the movement east has been planned decades in advance and  will be executed  as they see fit.....They are that good Marty....With that said, a connection with the source is essential.... They create fear and use it to control us.....What can they really do to us?  This is their domain and always will be....For me, I pick my battles carefully....and look them in the eyes....and yes...they make themselves known to me on a regular basis...The

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27 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:45 pm


Nice to read your thoughts Marty...I learned years ago that these guys are so far ahead of us that very little if anything happens without their approval...They have replaced conventional weapons with words and satellites. They know all Marty.....and the movement east has been planned decades in advance and  will be executed  as they see fit.....They are that good Marty....With that said, a connection with the source is essential.... They create fear and use it to control us.....What can they really do to us?  This is their domain and always will be....For me, I pick my battles carefully....and look them in the eyes....and yes...they make themselves known to me on a regular basis...The lack of fear is our greatest strength....

28 Re: Todays vote...Brexit on Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:07 am


topspin2 wrote: The lack of fear is our greatest strength....

And that becomes our greatest strength

"आप सिर्फ यह है आप नहीं था क्या मतलब है यह देखने के लिए किया था"

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