...posted a charged piece by someone calling himself Patrick H. Bellringer, who wanted to warn the world of all the cons and dangers of dealing with Jerzy Babkowski. He also unquestionably confirms the crossover identities of Jerzy Babkowski and ZAP being one and the same.
On Tuesday January, 20, 2015, at 9:54 pm, Bellringer posted the following headline: "ALERT! URGENT MESSAGE FOR PP & FARM CLAIMS PARTICIPANTS WAITING FOR FUNDS!!!"
These two headlines followed: "URGENT MESSAGE TO FOURWINDS READERS" and "USE DISCERNMENT - USE CAUTION WITH THIS MESSAGE."
The body of Bellringer's message was posted as follows:
January 20, 2015
"This message is specifically for those who are Prosperity Program participants, have Farm Claims, or are waiting funds for projects. You may be contacted by Zap/Poof, Susan and their staff to send them your bank address, banking coordinates such as bank account numbers routing and SWIFT numbers, etc.
"Do NOT give out to Zap or to anyone your personal banking information. Zap is a con man, a fraudster, and will access your bank accounts via the information you give him, and will take your money and leave you destitute.
"Zap is not who you think he is! Zap is Jerzy Babkowski, an international con-man, known widely for his fraud in China, Hong Kong, Europe, Canada and many other countries. Over the years he has taken much money from many people through fraud and deceit.
"Zap is planning to use the lists of names of Prosperity Program participants, Farm Claims people and Project people, contact them with the promise of providing 25K of “first money” to each by Thursday or Friday (Jan. 22, 23, 2015) of this week.
"There is no liquidity, no money available at this time for anyone. It is a trick to get you to give your banking information to Zap so he can access your accounts and take what little money you do have.
"If you do not believe me, Google “Jerzy Babkowski” and see for yourself. My most important and most trustworthy contacts are telling me that Zap is Jerzy Babkowski. Zap has proven this by sending an email that I now hold in my hand.
"The 'Grandfather' that Zap speaks of is NOT M1. This "Grandfather” has no authority to release any funds to anyone. It is all a lie. The sole signatory of the Global Family wealth is Dr. Tsai Cheng Lee, the true Grandfather/M1. The reason I know this is because I have known Dr. Lee and some of his people of Global Family for a very long time, and with whom I have direct communication. I cannot say more for reasons of confidentiality.
"Please understand that Zap is a total fraud, as are his reports. Unless, you are a sponsor and have paid your monthly fee of $35., Zap, Susan and staff refuse to answer your emails or talk to you by phone. They have made a lot of money over the years from gullible people, and they plan to make a whole lot more.
"Do NOT be tricked! Be wise, and know that true funding shall be forth coming in due time. The new gold standard international banking system shall be operational soon. Without it your money would be lost to the fraudulent Federal Reserve Bank.
"We shall present more information on this matter yet this week.
"In Love and Light,
"Patrick H. Bellringer
"Posted by Popeye at 2:49 PM"
JERZY BABKOWSKI / ZAP STOMP OUT BELLRINGER
Obviously, as was the case when Jerzy responded like a juvenile to my exposing him for his, Dougy Jones, and Willy Barney's efforts through Landa Global China / Humanus to steal Assets of the Global Debt Facility, which can be found here, http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=46265
Babkowski, responded as ZAP, with the exact same viciousness and subtle voice that he responded to me with, to attack Patrick H. Bellringer's accusations. Again, see the heavy handed ALL CAPS to show how really big Jerzy is in his own mind, and how intimidating he can be (LOL), whether he's writing as ZAP or Jerzy: http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?t=10413
ZAP'S RESPONSE TO BELLRINGER
AL: On Tuesday, January 27, 2015, at 4:24 am, the following response was posted underneath Bellringer's above letter. The response was dated Wednesday, January 21, 2015, and it was addressed from "ZAP to Patrick Bellringer." ZAP's in CAPS:
"In Response To: URGENT MESSAGE TO FOURWINDS READERS - The 'Grandfather' that Zap speaks of is NOT M1
"I HAVE JUST READ YOUR 'MESSAGE' TO THE WORLD ABOUT ME AND THIS JERZY BABKOWSKI WHO I AM SUPPOSED TO BE. OH, I AM ALSO SUPPOSED TO BE MARION HORN JR. OF FIVE STAR TRUST.
"IT SEEMS YOU BELIEVE YOU HAVE DONE THE WORLD A SERVICE BY SAYING I AM GOING TO STEAL EVERYBODY’S MONEY. HMMMM…CAN YOU TELL ME HOW I WILL DO THIS? I WILL HAVE MISS PHIPPS TYPE IT OUT, AND HAVE SNUFFLES AND HIS COMPLIANCE TEAM VET IT OUT TO SEE IF IT IS DOABLE. IT WILL AUGMENT MY DIAL-A-DINAR SERVICE.
"TO SET SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS STRAIGHT, AND PLEASE KNOW THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT IN YOUR POSITION GIVEN THE VARIOUS INFORMATIONS OUT THERE, YOU PUT ENOUGH 2+2+3+? TOGETHER TO FORM A PICTURE YOU THINK IS ACCURATE. IN RESPONSE TO YOUR MAGNIFICENT EXPOSE OF ZAP, I COMMENT AS FOLLOWS:"
[AL: ZAP continues response in ALL CAPS to BELLRINGER]:
"URGENT MESSAGE TO FOURWINDS READERS
"BY Patrick H. Bellringer
BELLRINGER: This message is specifically for those persons, who are Prosperity Program participants, have Farm Claims, or are waiting funding for projects. You may be contacted by Zap/Poof, Susan and their staff to send them your bank address, banking coordinates such as bank account numbers, routing and SWIFT numbers, etc.
"NO. I WILL NOT CONTACT ANYBODY IN REGARD FARM CLAIMS, PPP, OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN TO FUND PROJECTS…ABOUT 2,000 OF THEM SO FAR (THE REAL PURPOSE OF WHAT I AND MY TEAMS DO).
"IT IS NOT MY JOB OR PROVINCE TO INVOLVE MYSELF IN THE FARM CLAIMS OR PPP OR CURRENCY. OTHERS QUALIFIED TO HANDLE THESE ITEMS ARE DOING THAT. SO, YOUR FIRST ASSUMPTION IS NOT ACCURATE."
BELLRINGER: Do NOT give out to Zap or to anyone your personal banking information. Zap is a con man, a fraudster, and will access your bank accounts via the information you give him, and will take your money and leave you destitute.
"HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY SAY I AM A CON MAN PATRICK. DO YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF TANGIBLE PROOF? HAVE YOU HEARD OF ME DEFRAUDING ANYBODY? OR ASKING FOR MONEY? OR ACCESSING ANYBODY’S BANK ACCOUNTS AND STEALING THEIR MONEY AND LEAVING THEM DESTITUTE? OR PILLAGING THEIR VEGETABLE GARDEN? OR DOING ANYTHING SHADY AT ALL? REALLY PATRICK, THAT WOULD BE LIKE ME STATING THAT YOU STALKED AND MOLESTED LITTLE GIRLS WHEN YOU LIVED IN AN APARTMENT ACROSS FROM THE GIRLS PRIVATE SCHOOL. YOU KNOW…THE ONE WITH THE CAMERAS WITH THE BIG TELEPHOTO LENSES AND BINOCULARS. SO PLEASE, BEFORE MAKING SUCH INTERESTING STATEMENTS, DO SOME REAL DUE DILIGENCE. ASK PEOPLE. TAKE REPORTS. ASK FOR REPORTS OF WRONGDOING OF ME FROM PEOPLE. GET SOME MEAT AND POTATOES NOT JUST THE VEGETABLE ROUTINE OF SLAMMING FIRST AND SMILING AT YOUR CLEVERNESS. AND LEAVE THE PIGS OUT OF THIS. THEY ARE INNOCENT.
"BOTTOM LINE, YOU MUST DO MORE DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE MAKING SUCH STATEMENTS OR ELSE FACE LEGAL STUFF IN YOUR LIFE."
BELLRINGER: Zap is not who you think he is! Zap is Jerzy Babkowski, an international con-man, known widely for his fraud in China, Hong Kong, Europe, Canada and many other countries. Over the years he has taken much money from many people through fraud and deceit. Zap is planning to use the lists of names of Prosperity Program participants, Farm Claims people, and Project people, contact them with the promise of providing 25K of “first money” to each by Thursday or Friday (Jan. 22, 23, 2015) of this week.
"ZAP IS ZAP. NOT JEZRY OR MARION OR BOB. AND PATRICK…HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY SAY THAT JERZY BABKOWSKI IS WIDELY KNOWN FOR HIS FRAUD AROUND THE GLOBE? THAT IS NOT THE TRUTH. I KNOW JERZY WELL, AND I KNOW WHAT HE HAS DONE AND NOT DONE. JERZY HAS NOT, I REPEAT, NOT TAKEN ANY MONEY FROM PEOPLE BASED ON SOME SORT OF SCAM, FRAUD, OR DECEIT. NONE. ZERO. NOTHING. AGAIN YOU SHOULD SHOW PROOF BEFORE MAKING SUCH STATEMENT. WONDER WHAT JERZY WILL SAY TO YOU…AND I, ZAP (SPELLED Z-A-P), HAVE NO INTENTION, WILL, OR DESIGN TO USE ANY LIST OF NAMES OF PROSPERITY PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS, FARM CLAIMS PEOPLE, ETC. TO CONTACT THEM. WHY WOULD I? NOT INTERESTED. ACTUALLY, SORRY YES I AM INTERESTED IF THEY WISH TO DO A PROJECT.
"IN REGARD OF RELIEF FUNDS AS PROMISED BY JERZY BABKOWSKI TO CERTAIN PEOPLE, THAT IS HIS BUSINESS WHAT HE SENDS OUT. RIGHT? WHY WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN WHAT HE IS GOING TO DO TO HELP OTHERS? OR DERIDE HIM FOR DOING THAT? AND I HEARD FROM JERZY HIMSELF THAT HE IS SENDING OUT A BIT MORE THAN 25K, SO YOUR INFORMATION IS OFF THERE AS WELL. AGAIN, DO MORE DUE DILIGENCE. IMPORTANT TO DO SO OR THE INFORMATION YOU GIVE OUT WILL BACKLASH ON YOU."
BELLRINGER: There is no liquidity, no money available at this time for anyone. It is a trick to get you to give your banking information to Zap, so he can access your accounts and take what little money you do have.
"NO LIQUIDITY? PERHAPS YOU ARE NOT LIQUID, AND CAN NOT HELP PEOPLE. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THERE IS NO LIQUIDITY FOR SUCH PURPOSE. ARE YOU TAKING OUT SUCH ITEMS OF INFORMATION FROM A HAT? THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG ABOUT THAT, AND THE INFORMATION SEEMS A BIT FLAT FOR BEING TAKEN OUT OF A HAT. PLEASE DO DUE DILIGENCE. AND REALLY…GIVING OUT BANKING INFORMATION DOES NOT MEAN INSTANT ACCESS TO AN ACCOUNT TO TAKE OUT AN AMAZINGLY LARGE AMOUNT OF SOME HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS (IF THAT) FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALMOST A ZERO BALANCE ALL THE TIME BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT CABAL INSPIRED ECONOMIC CLIMATE.
"IS THIS ASSUMPTION PROVABLE PATRICK? CAN ONE REALLY ACCESS SOMEBODY’S ACCOUNT JUST BY HAVING THE BANKING INFORMATION AND TAKE MONEY OUT? ARE THERE NOT BANKING SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE TO PREVENT SUCH ACTIONS? WOULD THE BANKS NOT HAVE SUCH SECURITY ELEMENTS IN PLACE TO PREVENT SUCH ACTIONS? HAVE YOU HEARD OF ANYBODY THAT HAD THEIR $25 TAKEN OUT OF THEIR ACCOUNT BY PERSONS UNKNOWN? IS THIS A FIELD YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE IN?
"TO TEST THIS, HOW ABOUT IF I GIVE YOU MY BANKING INFORMATION, AND YOU TRY TAKING MONEY OUT OF MY ACCOUNT. I HAVE $263.17 IN MY ACCOUNT, SO TAKE OUT $100 TO SEE IF IT WORKS, BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME MY $100 BACK OTHERWISE SNUFFLES AND THE BOYS WILL COME TO GET IT BACK FOR ME."
BELLRINGER: If you do not believe me, Google “Jerzy Babkowski”, and see for yourself. My most important and most trustworthy contacts are telling me that Zap is Jerzy Babkowski. Zap has proven this by sending an email that I now hold in my hand.
"GOOGLING JERZY BABKOWSKI WILL GIVE YOU ONE ITEM OF INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE APPARENTLY BASED ALL YOUR INFORMATION ON. IN RESPONSE TO THIS, JERZY HAS WRITTEN THE FOLLOWING A LONG TIME AGO TO ADDRESS THIS. I PUBLISH HIS WORDS AS BELOW: .....
"JERZY HAS INFORMED ME THAT INTERPOL IS NOW INVOLVED IN THIS WEBSITE INFORMATION, AND THAT A LAW FIRM HAS BEEN HIRED TO ADDRESS THIS JACK BAUER FELLOW. MAY JACK KNOW THE MEANING OF A REAL INVESTIGATION."
BELLRINGER: The “Grandfather” that Zap speaks of is NOT M1. This “Grandfather” has no authority to release any funds to anyone. It is all a lie. The sole signatory of the Global Family wealth is Dr. Tsai Cheng Lee, the true Grandfather/M1.
"I HAVE NEVER EVER SAID GRAND FATHER IS M1. EVER. I KNOW SOME M1’S, BUT HE IS NOT THAT POSITION. DR. TSAI CHENG LEE IS AN IMPORTANT INDIVIDUAL. HE IS WELL KNOWN, AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR HIM. HE HAS MUCH WORK AHEAD OF HIM. BUT BECAUSE OF YOUR STATEMENTS HERE, HIS/YOUR ASSERTION THAT HE IS THE ONE TRUE M1 SHALL BE LOOKED INTO. I REPEAT AGAIN THAT THE GRAND FATHER WHO I SPEAK DIRECTLY WITH IS NOT M1, BUT THE 01 OR OVERSEAS OLD XXX, AND I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS M1.
"HE IS FIRST GENERATION. HE IS KNOWN BY A NUMBER OF NAMES AND NUMBERS. IF DR LEE IS IN CONTACT WITH HIM, THEN HE WILL KNOW HIM AS THE OLD L.M. OF CHONGQING’S OLD HOUSE OF LEE (AMONGST OTHER NAMES). IF HE DOES NOT, ASK DR LEE TO SEND ANY OF THE RECOGNITION POEMS TO ESTABLISH CONTACT WITH HIM. THIS IS IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME TO HIM, AND TO YOU. WHEN YOU SAY M1, YOU MUST KNOW THE UNDERLYING FOUNDATION OF THE M1 POSITION, AND NOT USE IT TO DESCRIBE THINGS THAT ARE NOT ACCURATE, BUT CERTAINLY MISLEADING. TIME FOR TRUTH, NOT SUPPOSITION.
"TO ELUCIDATE VERY BRIEFLY, THE M1 POSITION ACTS AS HOLDER/GUARDIAN/KEEPER OF THE ASSETS. HE WILL ACT AS THE FRONT FACE OF THE OWNER BUT ACTUALLY DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OWNING THE UNDERLYING HARD ASSETS. IT IS A MANAGEMENT POSITION. THE ACCOUNTS WILL BE IN HIS NAME AND HE SIGNS FOR A LOT OF THEM, AND AS COMPENSATION. HE HAS THE RIGHT TO A CERTAIN SMALL PERCENTAGE (BASICALLY THE INTEREST) OF FUNDS UNDER HIS MANAGEMENT. HE IS SUPPORTED BY A TEAM DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH HIM.
"ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF M1 AT THE BASE OF THE TRIANGLE THERE IS THE OWNER OF THE HARD ASSETS. THEY SIT ON AND CONTROL THE UNDERLYING PHYSICAL ASSETS. THE THIRD TOP LEVEL IS THAT OF THE CONTROLLER. THE FINAL SAY IS BY HIM FOR ANY USAGE OF THE ASSETS.
"HE CAN STOP ANYTHING THE OTHERS DECIDE, BUT RARELY INSTIGATES SUCH MACRO FUND MOVEMENTS. ALL THREE ARE REQUIRED FOR UTILIZATION OF ANY GIVEN ASSET. THE CONTROLLER CAN SIGN FOR HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS AND THEIR POSITION CODE WITHIN THE SYSTEM IS X/X/X (SORRY I WILL NOT GIVE OUT THIS PIECE OF INFORMATION).
"I WILL SHARE ONE OTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT DOES NOT IMPACT WHAT IS OCCURRING NOW. THE INFORMATIONS AND PROPHECIES THAT COME OUT FROM TIME TO TIME TO THE PUBLIC EYE ARE FROM (AMONGST OTHER THINGS) AN ANCIENT GOLD BOOK THAT CONTAINS EVERYTHING FROM BEGINNING TO END OF THE HUMAN DRAMA ON EARTH. IT IS BELIEVED TO BE PART OF WHAT KING SOLOMON LEFT HERE TOGETHER WITH HIS SWORD. IT CAN ONLY BE READ BY SELECTED PRIESTS USING A SPECIFIC TOOL. THE THRONE OF SOLOMON IS IN A SAFE PLACE AND GUARDED. THE WEALTH OF SOLOMON IS ALSO INTACT AND GUARDED. THIS WEALTH IS ALSO OF HUMANITY, AND WILL BE RELEASED AT THE RIGHT TIME ACCORDING TO THE PROPHECIES, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MATRIX FUNDS OF HUMANITY.
"I HOPE THIS IS OF USE TO YOU IN UNDERSTANDING THE BASIC SYSTEM OF THE FAMILY IN REGARD OF THE ASSETS AND THE M1 POSITION.
"IN ADDITION, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND PATRICK, THE FIRST M1 POSITION WAS HELD BY PRESIDENT SUHARTO OF INDONESIA. HE WAS A PRODUCT OF THE BLOODLINES THAT WERE DESIGNED TO UNIFY THE ROYALS TO A SINGLE COMMON PURPOSE IN A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL THAT COULD REPRESENT ALL THE BLOODLINES FOR THE BENEFIT OF HUMANITY: THE FIRST M1. HE AND PRESIDENT JOHN KENNEDY ATTEMPTED TO DO THE RESET AND JUNK THE CABAL, BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. BOTH DIED FOR THE ATTEMPT.
"FURTHER, ADVERTISING ONESELF AS AN M1 IS NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE M1 POSITION, AND THE CRITICAL THING TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HERE IS THAT THE FAMILY DOES NOT ADVERTISE SUCH THINGS. ANYBODY THAT ADVERTISES HE IS THE M1 POSITION IS GIVING OUT A SECRET THAT THE FAMILY WILL NOT LOOK FAVORABLY UPON, AND IS GROUNDS FOR BEING PUNTED FROM THAT POSITION. THIS IS BASIC COMMON SENSE RIGHT?
"DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF YOUR MESSAGE HERE IN REVEALING THIS INFORMATION?"
BELLRINGER: The reason I know this is because I have known Dr. Lee and some of his people of Global Family for a very long time, and with whom I have direct communication. I cannot say more for reasons of confidentiality.
"THEN YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE BROUGHT UP THE M1 POSITION. MY DUTY NOW IS TO MAKE GRAND FATHER AWARE OF THIS DISCLOSURE."
BELLRINGER: Please understand that Zap is a total fraud, as are his reports. Unless, you are a sponsor and have paid your monthly fee of $35., Zap, Susan and staff refuse to answer your emails or talk to you by phone. They have made a lot of money over the years from gullible people, and they plan to make a whole lot more.
"PATRICK, DEAR BOY, NEITHER I NOR SUSAN ASK FOR ANY FEES. DO YOU SEE ANY REQUESTS FOR A $35.00 MONTHLY FEE ANYWHERE? OR ANY FEE FOR THAT MATTER? SUSAN DOES NOT DO THAT. SHE SELFLESSLY PROVIDES INFORMATION AND RELIES ON DONATIONS TO SURVIVE UNLIKE MANY OTHER BLOG SPOTS THAT REQUIRE YOU TO PAY FOR LISTENING TO THEIR DAILY OR WEEKLY UPDATES. I DID THE MATH ONE TIME ON ONE SUCH SITE. WOW. OVER $20,000 PER CONFERENCE CALL THEY RAKE IN. I HAVE A MEASLY DIAL-A-DINAR THING ONLY, AND SO FAR (DESPITE BEST EFFORTS) I HAVE NOT MADE MUCH. AND WHAT I HAVE MADE I HAVE GIVEN TO BOB’S BANK TO PUT INTO A PROGRAM. WONDER HOW FAR $10 WILL GO…
"AND WHAT IS FRAUDULENT ABOUT MY REPORTS? ANYTHING SPECIFIC? ANYTHING? PLEASE… ANYTHING? SNUFFLES IS CURIOUS AS WELL IF THERE IS ANYTHING AT ALL TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU SAY. SEEMS AGGRAVATED."
BELLRINGER: Do NOT be tricked! Be wise, and know that true funding shall be forth coming in due time. The new gold standard international banking system shall be operational soon. Without it your money would be lost to the fraudulent Federal Reserve Bank.
We shall present more information on this matter yet this week.
"I PROMISE NOT TO BE TRICKED. AND I WILL BE WISE AND KNOW THAT TRUE FUNDING SHALL BE FORTHCOMING IN DUE TIME (ABOUT NOW I FIGURE).
"YEA I BELIEVES THAT’S THE NEWZ BANKIN SYSTEM SHALL BE OPERATIONAL SOON HALLELUIAH. AND YES WITHOUT IT, THE FEDERAL RESERVE WOULD HAVE LOST YOUR MONEY (BUT REALLY THEY HAVE DEFAULTED AND ARE NOW IN THE HANDS OF THE FAMILY TO PREVENT SUCH MISUSE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING).
"I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR INFORMATION ON THIS MATTER YET THIS WEEK.
[AL: Here, Jerzy as ZAP interjects his letter to Casper in letter with Bellringer.]
"IN CLOSING, A STATEMENT FROM SOMEONE I RESPECT: CASPER, AND MY RESPONSE (SO I DO NOT HAVE TO DO ANOTHER LETTER)."
CASPER: ZAP called about a month ago, first time ever. Wendy set it up and participated. WE had a pleasant talk, I had a sleepless night. The next morning I sent him a two page e-mail seeking clarification to some of the things discussed. No reply. Two weeks later I sent a one liner, ‘should we expect a reply to our e-mail from two weeks ago’? No reply.
"SORRY CASPER BUT MY EMAIL SYSTEM HAS BEEN COMPROMISED, AND BETWEEN ALL MY OTHER WORK, I HAD A HELLUVA TIME GETTING MY INFORMATION BACK. I WILL REPLY SHORTLY."
CASPER: I am not going to repeat everything we discussed but three things I have decided to share with you. 1). Zap, as you now readily admit and said to me, you don’t know anything about the ‘programs’ and never have so how is it that you were Poof’s source for extremely positive program info updates for 10 or 15 years?
"NO CASPER, I SAID THAT I AM WELL AWARE OF PROGRAMS AND THEIR FUNCTIONALITY AND MECHANICS, BUT NOT INVOLVED IN THE PPP PROGRAMS. THAT WAS POOF’S THING. I WROTE A GOODBYE MESSAGE FOR JAMES WHEN HE PASSED, AND THEN WAS REQUESTED TO DO ANOTHER MESSAGE THE NEXT WEEK. FROM THAT, IT SNOWBALLED INTO A WEEKLY THING, AND NOW WITH A MIDDLE WEEK THING. I DO NOT MIND AS IT AFFORDS A CERTAIN MEASURE OF RELIEF OF THE FRUSTRATIONS I TOO FEEL, BUT IT IS NOT GEARED FOR INFORMATION REGARDING THE PPP, JUST PROJECT SIDE."
CASPER: 2). Do you think it Kosher that you are using multiple Internet personalities to confirm your own Intel?
"CASPER, I DO NOT RELY ON INFORMATION FROM THE INTERNET. I DO NOT EVEN GO TO THE WEBSITES THAT ARE OUT THERE. IF I GET ANY INFO FROM THESE GUYS, IT COMES TO ME AS EXCERPTS FROM THE SITE BY WAY OF EMAIL. I REALLY HAVE NO INTEREST IN WHAT OTHERS SAY. MY INFORMATION COMES FROM MY OWN SOURCES."
CASPER: 3). Why is it that your Intel from ‘Grandfather Ming’ cannot be confirmed by family members who have known him for a hundred years after three attempts by them to do so?
"IF THEY WISH TO CONTACT GRAND FATHER, THEY CAN USE THE OLD AND ACCEPTED CONTACT POEMS. SNIFFING AROUND THEIR OWN CIRCLES TO FIND THE REAL 01 IS ASKING 999 FAMILY FACTIONS TO ASK EACH OTHER WHO THEY ARE. YOU WILL HAVE 999 FAMILY FACTIONS CONFIRMING THEIR GRANDFATHER IS THE 01. AND THEY WOULD BE TELLING THE TRUTH."
CASPER: There was no request by Zap that we keep our talk confidential.
"YES THERE WAS CASPER. I ASKED TO KEEP ME CONFIDENTIAL AND OUR TALK. THESE ARE EXTREMELY SENSITIVE TIMES, AND I REACHED OUT TO YOU ON THIS BASIS. BUT NO HARM DONE."
WE are not attacking Zap, we are doing our duty of reporting to our readers, our friends, some of whom go back to times long before Casper, Zap or the Dinar were ever heard of by the ‘public’.
"I DO UNDERSTAND, SO NO WORRIES. KEEP ON THE GOOD WORK – HUMANITY WILL WIN. WE’LL TALK SOON AGAIN. GIVE ME A FEW DAYS. VERY BUSY TIME NOW. OH, AND GREECE JUST GOT A RUN ON 4 MAJOR BANKS NOW. I AM CONCERNED…."
[AL: Back to Bellringer and Jerzy in ALL CAPS]
In Love and Light,
Patrick H. Bellringer
"SO THANK YOU FOR THE ENLIGHTENING CONVERSATION PATRICK. I DO WISH YOU THE BEST.
IF YOU HAD MEANT IN LOVE AND LIGHT, YOU WOULD HAVE DONE A BIT MORE DUE DILIGENCE I WOULD THINK. HOWEVER, I DO WISH YOU LOVE AND LIGHT, AND TRUST THAT MY COMMENTS MAKE BETTER SENSE TO YOU THAN MERE ASSUMPTION, SURMISE AND RUMOR. THOSE THINGS CAN BE FOUND AT OUR MARVELOUS DIAL-A-DINAR SYSTEM. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE IT. IT HAS MEAT AND POTATOES. AND VEGGIES TOO. (SNUFFLES GRINNING).
"AND IN CASE ANYBODY GOT THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT, PATRICK BELLRINGER IS NOT A CHILD MOLESTER, AND DID NOT HAVE AN APARTMENT ACROSS FROM A GIRLS SCHOOL WITH BIG TELEPHOTO LENSES ON BIG CAMERAS AND BIG BINOCULARS.
"PATRICK BELLRINGER IS ACTUALLY A SOLID GUY, AND OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE ENJOYED HIS INSIGHT AND STILL DO. THANKS PATRICK FOR ALL YOU DO."
“GOD IS; I AM; WE ARE”
“BE GOOD, BE LEGAL, TELL TRUTH”
January 20, 2015
Copyright ZAP 2013-2015
CC: JERZY BABKOWSKI
APRIL 16, 2015 COMPLAINTS RE SCAMDA
AL: If you have ever participated in any of Jerzy Babkowski's Prosperity Programs, or if you've had any interest or dealings with Landa China Global / Humanus, Dougy Jones or Willy Barney, or if you believe in the whole CV / GCR scam / phenomena, then you're going to want to follow fogbow.com here: http://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=7832&start=25
Fogbow is a running dialogue for those who question everything that has been talked about above. It delivers a day by day, play by play calendar of what Jerzy, Dougy, and Willy and their crazy cadre of on again off again telephone conference guests are up to. The lengthy series of postings in this thread are called "LANDA CHINA'S BOND AND "HUMANITARIAN" REDEMPTION SCAM".
The reason I include this in here is because this amounts to an actual play by play of what Jerzy, Dougy, and Willy are really up to. This is a criminal operation in the act, and they have been generating victims for years practicing what they do. All this information is included in an effort to stop the crimes being committed against the Global Debt Facility.
If you've never watched these guys at Landa before, with all the information I have included here, you will be able to see recurring themes in their presentations. There's always the intelligence updates. Always sketchy outlines of the movement of money toward actual pay out. There's always the asking for money and the creating of more victims through fraud. And there's never been an actual payout.
The scheme is to get you to give them your ID's and money and bonds and access to the gold depository you are sitting on. That's why they are always giving you the big pitch: Tell us where the gold is on your property, and show us the documents you have in your family's name. And in the end, Babkowski, Jones, Barney, and Landa China Global / Humanus will be coming to collect, whether you want to participate or not.
No, Mr. Crayford, the sad truth is that you and I are not the only one's who are up to the thieving nonsense these guys provide.
AL: I have included the dates and times of the fogbow posts hereinbelow in CAPS, as they were entered, followed by pertinent comments, in full or in part, that were made by those persons who posted them on those dates and times. The comments below are not made by me. Any comments made by American Lawyer are preceded by my initials, AL:
THU APR 16, 2015 11:42 AM
As we all know, my favorite corner of the crazy part of the internet are those folks obsessed with the mythical Redemption and Global Currency Reset. For the uninitiated, this is the myth that one day some ancient family/aliens/NESARA/whatever will release trillions of dollars and we'll all be rich. There are tens of thousands of idiots that listen to conference calls 24/7 about how "funding" is near.
Now we have a new twist - "humanitarian projects." The supposed benevolent entities that are holding all these vast sums of money have deigned that we are not worthy to receive their cash quite yet...but until then, True Believers may petition said entities to start "humanitarian projects."
Now you too can start your own UNICEF or Red Cross with GCR funds, all you have to do is submit your business plan to said benevolent entities for vetting and review. Oh, and in some cases, there is a tiny fee for this - around $100. But don't worry...once your plan gets approved (any day now, they promise!) you'll be handed tens or hundreds of millions of dollars and you can pay yourself a few hundred grand for "administering" your charity.
What I love about this is that its such an obvious money grab to desperate people, but everyone involved is disguising it as if they just want to help people by starting charities.
Links of interest for those who want to listen/view the insanity for themselves -
Landa Global (http://humanus.ca/landa-conferences.php): A weekly conference call held by said benevolent entities to assure you funding is very soon and please get those business plans in now!
True Vision of Peace (http://www.truevisionofpeace.com/): A all-encompassing website where, for the low price of $100, you can talk directly with the role playing lunatics benefactors who will be bequeathing you with vast sums of money for your project. Featured is The Ambassador, someone who claims to represent the mythical Chinese Dragon Family who controls tons of money that they want to use to help you - and he'll be happy to listen to your pitch for your humanitarian project...for a fee.
JUNE 25, 2015
AL: Some of the follow up commentators to Patrick H. Bellringer's piece above and below seem to have been following Jerzy as well. They comment here: http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?t=10413
Several of the follow up comments to Patrick H. Bellringer follow next, with their posted dates and times. These are not American Lawyer's comments:
THU JUN 25, 2015 8:42 AM
Recantation of Zap
Last week, the inane ramblings of Zap, the Poof successor and representative (or one such) of the Chinese families - who are to unleash a torrent of wealth onto an unsuspecting world and have been on the brink of doing so for some years - caused quite a flap when he suggested that the Dinar isn't all it's cracked up to be:
THE DINAR THING IS A CURIOSITY AT THE MOMENT AS THE RV CAN NOT HAPPEN UNTIL THEY SHUT DOWN THE PRINTING PRESSES THAT ARE MERRILY WORKING 24/7 PRINTING MORE DINAR.
HOW CAN YOU HAVE AN RV WHEN TRILLIONS IN DINAR ARE BEING PRINTED EVERY DAY BY THOSE THAT SEE A GRAVY TRAIN WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE? SORRY TO TELL THE TRUTH, BUT I HAVE NO CHOICE
This abnegation apparently provoked a torrent of invective, with followers who swore black and blue that Zap had been saying for ages that it was all going to revalue along with all the other promised, but so far elusive, money.
Well, since his donation pipeline depends on telling as many lies to as many people as possible, now he has 'modified' his earlier position:
.... I GUESS THE LAST ZAP SCARED SOMEBODY THAT WAS DOING SOMETHING BAD, AND THEY STOPPED WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
IN THE MEANTIME, THE WHOLE RV MACHINERY WAS WELL IN MOTION.
TWO DAYS AGO, THE COUNTRIES SIGNED OFF ON THE RV. EXCEPT ONE. AND NO, THE USA SIGNED OFF THIS TIME. INDIA HELD OUT AND ASKED FOR MORE MONEY BEFORE THEY WOULD SIGN.
INSTEAD, THEY WERE GIVEN AN ULTIMATUM. EITHER SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE, OR GO POUND SAND AS THE REST OF THE WORLD WOULD SWITCH TO PLAN C AND DO IT ANYWAYS.
I JUST HEARD THEY SOFTENED AND MAYBE SIGNED OFF BEFORE SATURDAY. I WILL KNOW MORE LATER.
I WAS INFORMED THAT THE RV EXCHANGE RATE IS STILL OVER $3.50, AND IF THIS IS THE CASE, THEN IT DOES INDEED SPELL A MASSIVE INFLUX OF FUNDS INTO THE ECONOMIES, AND THIS WILL BE SO WELCOME.
...I HOPE THE NOSES THAT GOT TWISTED OUT OF JOINT ARE RESET TO SQUARE, AND IF I DISSED ANYBODY OFF (I DID), TERRIBLY SORRY
Like so many other internet hucksters he is always on the lookout for donations. Recently, he sank to the low of asking for money for a bogus alternative cancer treatment for a mythical friend of his. In this area of deception, his lies are even more heinous than those gurus who only profit from peddling Dinar.
No-one seems to bother asking why it is that he is supposedly breaking his back to make sure that the vast fortune of the Chinese families flows into channels that will help all mankind, but the penurious swine won't even pay him a living wage for his efforts. Outrageous!
THU JUN 25, 2015 7:06 PM
LightinDarkness wrote: Isn't Zap really just Susan (the woman to helped "Poofness" get the RV hopium out on a weekly basis?).
Listen to the first few minutes of the calls archived here: http://landachinaglobal.com/conferences.php
, in particular the Intel updates from Jerzy Babkowski and then read the POOFNESS report and you will find many of the same phrases used. i.e
AGAIN MUCH GOOD NEWS. THE FUNDING RELEASES ARE WELL IN PROGRESS
YES AND YES. THE PROJECTS ARE COMING ALIVE, AND THIS MISSION IS ALMOST COMPLETE AND WE CAN ALL GET TO THE WORK AT HAND, AND DO GREAT SERVICE FOR THIS PLANET AND EACH OTHER.
For fun, you can even check the POOFNESS reports from months or years ago and see the same phrases, i.e. funds to help humanity are on their way. Similar to Chicken Little, but instead of the world ending, it is getting better.
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AL: We return to the dates and posts on fogbow here http://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=7832&start=25
... and the commentators that are following Jerzy Babkowski and Landa China Global. CONTINUED...