Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:33 pm by globalturbo LATEST RV NEWS 12 - 18 - 13 WITH NEW EXCHANGE PROCEDURES -HOPE THIS ENCOURAGES SOME- KEEP THE FAITH
The IMF is forcing the RV worldwide, given the dragging of the feet by our US Treasury, squabbling over how to pay us less. 12 international countries exist at this point with live rates at the central bank level and being pushed to the local banks in these countries, with local cash in confirmations in at least couple of the countries. A formal investigation has been started over abuse of power, attempting to pay various rates to various people. IMF is fighting to get us the $32 rate. Banks and others are trying to give us the lower rates.
This is one of the few calls by Tony I recommend everyone listen to:
MP3 - https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=IJlkD/jx225
REPLAY 805-399-1500 409029#
12/18/13 ~ NEW EXCHANGE PROCEDURES:
37,000 have already privately exchanged
Contract US IQN Rates: $32 & $5.85
International Market Rate: $3.85
Admiral’s group in Reno will get contract rate: $32
Wells Fargo: $32 temporary rate
General64 private placement rate will be a medium amount: $16? (between high and low rate)
Tony will get a different 800# for contract rate of $32 for a period of time and then drop to flex rate
800# from pamphlet will get: $5.85
TNT: SUPPOSEDLY WITH ONE BANK, AN 800 NUMBER THAT WE WILL GIVE OUT, FOR A PERIOD OF TIME ~ ANYONE GOING THROUGH THAT 800 NUMBER WILL GET THE $32 AND THEN AS IT GOES DOWN WILL GET THAT (lower) RATE.
IT'S CALLED A FLEX RATE.
If rates come out low they will go up depending upon the market because people will jump in and start buying because they know when it peaks and when to sell.
UST is issuing the 800# to the banks.
($1:15 VNN if IQN $5.85) VNN is adjusted to the IQN (if $32 then VNN $6)
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Subject: Fwd: 12-18 from Ber re revaluation
Where we at is the question now that the 800#s haven't shown up yet.
Listen to the replay of the latest 12/18 TNTdinar webinar at www.tntdinar.com
This has become a very complicated issue due to the corruptness within our government.
Fact is, the revaluation has been called, it has happened, Iraqis are spending dinars, getting $3.44USD equivalent out of their ATM machines as I write this. We will get paid, and soon; how much is the only big question. More countries besides the 7 yesterday are now showing the live international rate of $3.85/dinar today - Kuwait, Jordan, Dubai, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey, England, Australia, Chile, France and Belgium. The United States Treasury is the agency holding this up in the US. The problem is they have now cashed out over 37,000 elite politicians, friends and family, at the contract rate of $32/dinar and are trying to figure out how to short change the rest of us without having to do a clawback on the double and triple dipper elite that have already been paid. And there are still many elite who have not yet been paid that still expect the $32 contract rate. Today's time in DC is being spent in meetings arbitrating this issue of who gets paid what. They are expecting 800#s to be released today or by morning after this is resolved. It will absolutely be all done with by Christmas, and supposedly by this Friday and they still aren't letting anyone take vacation time until it is completed. There was a turnover of people in the UST who didn't get the job done.The new guys were told to get it done or the same would happen to them.
And the payout isn't going to be fair either. In order to get the $32 rate you have to call a different 800 # that you will get off one of these forums like Tony's we listen to every day. If you go into a bank and they give you the 800# to call, you will only be steered to the $5.85 rate. If you finally find out about it later, because you will see nothing in the media about it, you will only get the $3.85 rate. You could go to another country today and get the $3.85 rate today, even as a US citizen. That alone will push the UST to call this now as people will take their dinars and fly to these countries and cash out and the US will not receive them for oil credits. The UST knows that is happening right now. One of the reasons Christine LeGarde of the IMF called the RV internationally was to force the UST to get it done in the US as she knew people would then seek other countries to cash out with and UST does not want these dinars to leave the country. Yet they don't want to let the common folk get their hands on money and exchange at the contract rate either.
Last night they were still paying elite people out, by invitation only. There are three rates out there; the international rate at $3.85/dinar, a US rate of $5.85 which they are trying to stick to most dinar holders so they aren't creating wealthy peons, and the $32 contract rate which is really the rate we should be getting and is what the politicians have been paid out on. Like I said, to the UST it doesn't make any difference; they still get our dinars as oil credits to buy oil with whether we get paid $3.85, $5.85 or $32 for them. It doesn't matter to me. At my age I would not adapt to a lifestyle other than what I am accustomed to. And my Russian wife is worse about spending money than I am. The only difference will be in how much we can allot to help others. We don't hold millions of dinars, but even at $3.85 we do hold enough to last us our lifetimes if we are careful. Exchanging at $3.85 works just fine for us. I would not cashin all I have anyway as I truly believe in 1 1/2 years there will be a bank run and people will lose everything they have in banks. So most of our dinars are only worth $3.85 as it is. I do not believe banks are a safe place to keep money; or even earn money through, looking at Cyprus and Poland as examples. I will probably buy real estate along the way instead of keeping money in banks. I believe small towns will be rejuvenated as people like us seek a simpler life than where we are at now.
So I can't tell you we will exchange by tomorrow or even Friday, even though it is highly probable. I could pretty much say we could have money by Christmas. There would be too much loss of credibility and faith in government to not allow people to go shopping with their windfall, whether it be at the low rate or high rate. And the UST is not going to allow people to fly out of here to cash in in another country without a struggle; created by their own ineptitude.
I will update you as soon as I have new information on dinar/dong exchanging, especially the 800#s to call to get the high rate.
Posted by John MacHaffie at 4:48 PM 5 comments [/b]
The IMF is forcing the RV worldwide, given the dragging of the feet by our US Treasury, squabbling over how to pay us less. 12 international countries exist at this point with live rates at the central bank level and being pushed to the local banks in these countries, with local cash in confirmations in at least couple of the countries. A formal investigation has been started over abuse of power, attempting to pay various rates to various people. IMF is fighting to get us the $32 rate. Banks and others are trying to give us the lower rates.
This is one of the few calls by Tony I recommend everyone listen to:
MP3 - https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=IJlkD/jx225
REPLAY 805-399-1500 409029#
12/18/13 ~ NEW EXCHANGE PROCEDURES:
37,000 have already privately exchanged
Contract US IQN Rates: $32 & $5.85
International Market Rate: $3.85
Admiral’s group in Reno will get contract rate: $32
Wells Fargo: $32 temporary rate
General64 private placement rate will be a medium amount: $16? (between high and low rate)
Tony will get a different 800# for contract rate of $32 for a period of time and then drop to flex rate
800# from pamphlet will get: $5.85
TNT: SUPPOSEDLY WITH ONE BANK, AN 800 NUMBER THAT WE WILL GIVE OUT, FOR A PERIOD OF TIME ~ ANYONE GOING THROUGH THAT 800 NUMBER WILL GET THE $32 AND THEN AS IT GOES DOWN WILL GET THAT (lower) RATE.
IT'S CALLED A FLEX RATE.
If rates come out low they will go up depending upon the market because people will jump in and start buying because they know when it peaks and when to sell.
UST is issuing the 800# to the banks.
($1:15 VNN if IQN $5.85) VNN is adjusted to the IQN (if $32 then VNN $6)
-------------------------------
Subject: Fwd: 12-18 from Ber re revaluation
Where we at is the question now that the 800#s haven't shown up yet.
Listen to the replay of the latest 12/18 TNTdinar webinar at www.tntdinar.com
This has become a very complicated issue due to the corruptness within our government.
Fact is, the revaluation has been called, it has happened, Iraqis are spending dinars, getting $3.44USD equivalent out of their ATM machines as I write this. We will get paid, and soon; how much is the only big question. More countries besides the 7 yesterday are now showing the live international rate of $3.85/dinar today - Kuwait, Jordan, Dubai, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey, England, Australia, Chile, France and Belgium. The United States Treasury is the agency holding this up in the US. The problem is they have now cashed out over 37,000 elite politicians, friends and family, at the contract rate of $32/dinar and are trying to figure out how to short change the rest of us without having to do a clawback on the double and triple dipper elite that have already been paid. And there are still many elite who have not yet been paid that still expect the $32 contract rate. Today's time in DC is being spent in meetings arbitrating this issue of who gets paid what. They are expecting 800#s to be released today or by morning after this is resolved. It will absolutely be all done with by Christmas, and supposedly by this Friday and they still aren't letting anyone take vacation time until it is completed. There was a turnover of people in the UST who didn't get the job done.The new guys were told to get it done or the same would happen to them.
And the payout isn't going to be fair either. In order to get the $32 rate you have to call a different 800 # that you will get off one of these forums like Tony's we listen to every day. If you go into a bank and they give you the 800# to call, you will only be steered to the $5.85 rate. If you finally find out about it later, because you will see nothing in the media about it, you will only get the $3.85 rate. You could go to another country today and get the $3.85 rate today, even as a US citizen. That alone will push the UST to call this now as people will take their dinars and fly to these countries and cash out and the US will not receive them for oil credits. The UST knows that is happening right now. One of the reasons Christine LeGarde of the IMF called the RV internationally was to force the UST to get it done in the US as she knew people would then seek other countries to cash out with and UST does not want these dinars to leave the country. Yet they don't want to let the common folk get their hands on money and exchange at the contract rate either.
Last night they were still paying elite people out, by invitation only. There are three rates out there; the international rate at $3.85/dinar, a US rate of $5.85 which they are trying to stick to most dinar holders so they aren't creating wealthy peons, and the $32 contract rate which is really the rate we should be getting and is what the politicians have been paid out on. Like I said, to the UST it doesn't make any difference; they still get our dinars as oil credits to buy oil with whether we get paid $3.85, $5.85 or $32 for them. It doesn't matter to me. At my age I would not adapt to a lifestyle other than what I am accustomed to. And my Russian wife is worse about spending money than I am. The only difference will be in how much we can allot to help others. We don't hold millions of dinars, but even at $3.85 we do hold enough to last us our lifetimes if we are careful. Exchanging at $3.85 works just fine for us. I would not cashin all I have anyway as I truly believe in 1 1/2 years there will be a bank run and people will lose everything they have in banks. So most of our dinars are only worth $3.85 as it is. I do not believe banks are a safe place to keep money; or even earn money through, looking at Cyprus and Poland as examples. I will probably buy real estate along the way instead of keeping money in banks. I believe small towns will be rejuvenated as people like us seek a simpler life than where we are at now.
So I can't tell you we will exchange by tomorrow or even Friday, even though it is highly probable. I could pretty much say we could have money by Christmas. There would be too much loss of credibility and faith in government to not allow people to go shopping with their windfall, whether it be at the low rate or high rate. And the UST is not going to allow people to fly out of here to cash in in another country without a struggle; created by their own ineptitude.
I will update you as soon as I have new information on dinar/dong exchanging, especially the 800#s to call to get the high rate.
Posted by John MacHaffie at 4:48 PM 5 comments [/b]
