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ZEROHEDGE: Panic On The Streets Of London ... Can Scotland Ever Be The Same Again?

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ZEROHEDGE: Panic On The Streets Of London ... Can Scotland Ever Be The Same Again?



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-12/panic-streets-london-can-scotland-ever-be-same-again
Panic On The Streets Of London ... Can Scotland Ever Be The Same Again?
Submitted by GoldCore on 09/12/2014 12:39 -0400

There is now less than one week of campaigning remaining before the Scottish Independence Referendum, which takes place next Thursday, September 18.

The pro-union ‘no’ vote campaign is back in the lead this week after the latest opinion poll from pollsters YouGov put them at 52%, marginally ahead of the pro-independence ‘yes’ campaign.

The referendum question being asked is simply “Should Scotland be an independent country?”

After being ahead significantly since the outset of the independence campaign, the pro-union side was abruptly shocked last weekend when the pro-independence side took the lead based on an opinion poll result, also from YouGov, released on Saturday, September 6.

This forced the pro-union campaign into panic mode this week with the UK witnessing an unprecedented coordinated campaign between all the main political parties. who are pro-union, and a number of major UK companies to try to convince the Scottish electorate to stay in the United Kingdom.

Scotland’s financial sector became one of the main battlegrounds this week, with many Scottish headquartered banks and financial services companies first threatening to relocate their headquarters to London and then actually announcing that they will move south if the referendum outcome results in a ‘yes’ majority.

The HQ move threats and announcements appeared to be part of an orchestrated corporate campaign run by the UK’s Treasury department and the Treasury did not deny this.

According to the banks, they are seeking to move because an independent Scotland would create too much economic, regulatory and financial risk and uncertainty for their headquarters to remain there.

Amongst the banks, two of the UK’s biggest banking institutions, the Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS), and Lloyd’s led the charge. Crucially, since the RBS and Lloyds were both bailed out by the UK government during the financial crisis, the UK government is now a significant shareholder in both institutions, owning a whopping 80% of the RBS and 25% of Lloyds.


RBS has been headquartered in Scotland since 1727 and employs 35,000 north of the border. Lloyds owns various institutions including Bank of Scotland (not to be confused with the Royal Bank of Scotland), Halifax and Scottish Widows, the pensions and life insurance group.

Scotland’s third biggest bank, Clydesdale, owned by the National Australia Bank (NAB) said it also planned to relocate its HQ to London, again citing the uncertainty that a yes result would generate. Other banks such as the TSB and Tesco Bank also followed suit and said they too would move.

Many of the banks’ and asset managers’ share prices had been hit on the London Stock Exchange this week due to the pro-independence movement’s lead including the share prices of RBS, Lloyds, Aberdeen Asset  Management and Standard Life.

Financial services giant Standard Life joined in, saying that it would relocate large parts of its operations such as pensions and investments out of Scotland if the country voted for independence. Dutch asset manager and insurer Aegon said it too would move operations to London.

Other industry leaders also sided with the pro-union alignment with the CEO of the UK’s largest oil company British Petroleum (BP) saying that the company and the economy was “best served by maintaining the existing capacity and integrity of the United Kingdom”.

Scottish first minister and pro-independence leader Alex Salmond said that the corporate announcements had been orchestrated by the prime minister’s office in Downing Street in London, and that Treasury had been ‘caught red-handed in a campaign of scaremongering”.

According to the FT, a Treasury official admitted that “Danny Alexander and George Osborne have been making calls.” George Osborne is the Chancellor of the Exchequer and Danny Alexander is his assistant at the Treasury. The calls to RBS would have been quite easy to make given the government’s 80% shareholding. Likewise with Lloyds.

As RBS and Lloyds are already essentially run from London, the HQ move announcements do appear to have been more politically motivated than anything. HM Treasury does appear to have been bullying and pulling strings behind the scenes. On one hand it says plans by companies to move were ‘understandable’, while on the other hand it has been making phone calls encouraging companies to move.

Elsewhere, Mark Carney, the Governor of the Bank of England, became involved in the debate which is slightly surprising given that the Bank of England is supposedly neutral of political interference. Carney said this week that a currency union between Scotland and the rest of the UK  is incompatible with an independent Scotland.

Media mogul Rupert Murdoch chimed in, hinting that he was on the side of pro-independence, most likely because of his current coolness towards the Westminster leaders,  while financier George Soros weighed in on the pro-union side.

There is much to lose for the City of London’s financial sector due to the economic uncertainty and sterling currency risk of an independent Scotland and the loss of financial power, international standing and resources that a smaller UK would represent.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) also became involved this week warning that “the main immediate effect is likely to be uncertainty over the transition to a potentially new and different monetary, financial and fiscal framework in Scotland.”

The pound sterling has fallen and risen this week based on the prevailing sentiment expressed in the various independence polls. Sterling strengthened today following the latest poll but had touched an 11 month low earlier this week against the dollar.

In terms of sterling, the gold price has not really moved significantly over the last month, remaining in a £20 trading range between £780 and £760, although the price did fall from the £780 range on Monday down to £760 today, slightly more than the US dollar denominated price move in gold, but in  in general sentiment to the weakness in the US dollar gold price.

Scotland’s bid for independence has also crystallised nationalist aspirations in other countries, most notably in Catalonia which is on the brink of its own unofficial referendum to try to break away from Spain. Yesterday was National Catalan Day and millions protested across the region most notably in Barcelona.

There has been much speculation this week about how the UK’s gold reserves would be affected if an independence result emerges. The UK Treasury said that all Treasury reserve assets would be up for negotiation. Since this is a very general statement it does not provide much clarity as to whether an independent Scotland would be able to take any of the UK ‘s gold reserves, but this did stop various media outlets from appearing to think that Scotland would get its share of the UK gold.

At this stage it is best to adopt a wait and see attitude since there are too many unknowns for any factual conclusions to be reached on the future of the UK, let alone future UK fiscal plans.

Whatever the outcome of next week’s independence referendum in Scotland, it has illustrated that the UK is a economic entity which is in some parts held together by groupings that do not have the same outlook. The closeness of the results for the two campaigns suggests that if the pro-union campaign wins, they will still have to address the concerns of the large Scottish independence movement, and calls for a future referendum on the subject may not go away.

Economic uncertainty in the UK will remain in the near term and it is hard to see the UK economic landscape ever being quite the same again after the heated campaigning on both sides of the independence issue.
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The dirty tricks have gone into panicked overdrive, and Salmond has made much ridicule of the farce. The EU absolutely does not want a yes vote as it may set off movement in Spain for example and destroy the EU

A win/win situation

The attitude seems to be under 40's don't care and will vote yes, all the rest are panicking, have not informed themselves or will vote yes.

I will be so happy to see the yes vote win



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RT 9-12-14… “1.8mn people, 11km line: Catalonians stage their biggest independence rally”

Posted on 2014/09/13 by kauilapele
It’s not just happening in Scotland. It’s in Spain, as well… in Catalonia. Also in the Basque. This shows that those wanting to restore their place in the world are now stepping up and taking action.
Part of the reason for posting this, is that this is also happening in Hawai’i. And reports like this one indicate to me that the “time is [very] ripe” for the Kingdom of Hawai’i, as well.
Here are two more articles found at RT about the Catalan movement.
Europe’s biggest rally ever? Up to 2 million Catalans march for independence
​Catalan leader defies Spanish PM to his face, pledges to press ahead with independence vote
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1.8mn people, 11km line: Catalonians stage their biggest independence rally
Europe saw one of the largest demonstrations in recent years: at least 1.8 million people formed an 11km red-yellow line to show their support for the upcoming independence referendum. A mosaic was made in the form of a ‘V’ for ‘vote’.
V for vote
At least 1.8 million Catalans, dressed in red and yellow, the colors of the Catalan flag, gathered on Gran Via and Avenida Diagonal, two of the main streets in Barcelona. Seen from the air, the rally formed a ‘V’ 11km long. According to the organizers, ‘V’ represented ‘vote’, ‘victory’ and ‘will’ (voluntat in Catalan).


A handout pictured provided on September 11, 2014 by ANC (Catalan Nationa Assembly) shows an aerial view of a giant Senyera (Catalan flag) formed by several thousands of demonstrators during celebrations of Catalonia National Day (Diada) in Barcelona. (AFP Photo)
The number of people participated in the rally – 1.8 million – even surpassed the number of population in Barcelona, which is about 1.6 million. There were more people than the whole population in Luxemburg, Lichtenstein, Monaco or Vatican.
“Catalunya [Catalonia] is not Spain,” read some for the banners, “Whatever it happens, we want to vote” said others.
“Our culture, our language and our traditions must be respected and we have seen that in this state that is impossible,” Bernat Pi, a 24-year-old doctoral student waving a Catalan flag told the Local.
“We want a say in politics and our future. We’ve won back our sovereignty and realized the strength we have, if we mobilize, to change things,” Carme Forcadell, head of the National Catalan Assembly (ANC), one of the organizers of the event, told Reuters.
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People hold “estelada” flags, Catalan separatist flags, as they form a “V” for “vote” during a gathering to mark the Calatalonia day “Diada” in central Barcelona September 11, 2014. (Reuters/Albert Gea)
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Europe saw one of the largest demonstrations in recent years: at least 1.8 million people formed an 11km red-yellow line to show their support for the upcoming independence referendum. A mosaic was made in the form of a ‘V’ for ‘vote’.
V for vote
At least 1.8 million Catalans, dressed in red and yellow, the colors of the Catalan flag, gathered on Gran Via and Avenida Diagonal, two of the main streets in Barcelona. Seen from the air, the rally formed a ‘V’ 11km long. According to the organizers, ‘V’ represented ‘vote’, ‘victory’ and ‘will’ (voluntat in Catalan).
A handout pictured provided on September 11, 2014 by ANC (Catalan Nationa Assembly) shows an aerial view of a giant Senyera (Catalan flag) formed by several thousands of demonstrators during celebrations of Catalonia National Day (Diada) in Barcelona. (AFP Photo)
A handout pictured provided on September 11, 2014 by ANC (Catalan Nationa Assembly) shows an aerial view of a giant Senyera (Catalan flag) formed by several thousands of demonstrators during celebrations of Catalonia National Day (Diada) in Barcelona. (AFP Photo)
The number of people participated in the rally – 1.8 million – even surpassed the number of population in Barcelona, which is about 1.6 million. There were more people than the whole population in Luxemburg, Lichtenstein, Monaco or Vatican.
Catalans holding Catalan independentist flags (Estelada) gather on Passeig de Gracia during celebrations of Catalonia National Day (Diada) in Barcelona on September 11, 2014. (AFP Photo/Josep Lago)
Catalans holding Catalan independentist flags (Estelada) gather on Passeig de Gracia during celebrations of Catalonia National Day (Diada) in Barcelona on September 11, 2014. (AFP Photo/Josep Lago)
“Catalunya [Catalonia] is not Spain,” read some for the banners, “Whatever it happens, we want to vote” said others.
“Our culture, our language and our traditions must be respected and we have seen that in this state that is impossible,” Bernat Pi, a 24-year-old doctoral student waving a Catalan flag told the Local.
People hold placards with the colours of the Catalan flag as they take part in a demonstration in support of a Catalan vote on independence from Spain, in the northern Spanish Basque city of Bilbao on September 9, 2014, ahead of the Diada. (AFP Photo/Rafa Rivas)
People hold placards with the colours of the Catalan flag as they take part in a demonstration in support of a Catalan vote on independence from Spain, in the northern Spanish Basque city of Bilbao on September 9, 2014, ahead of the Diada. (AFP Photo/Rafa Rivas)
‘Ara És l’Hora'(‘it’s time’)
“Now is the time,” said the slogan seen on the T-shirts of some participants.
A woman brandishes a placard on Gran Via de les Corts Catalanes during celebrations of Catalonia National Day (Diada) in Barcelona on September 11, 2014. (AFP Photo/Quique Garcia)
A woman brandishes a placard on Gran Via de les Corts Catalanes during celebrations of Catalonia National Day (Diada) in Barcelona on September 11, 2014. (AFP Photo/Quique Garcia)
“We want a say in politics and our future. We’ve won back our sovereignty and realized the strength we have, if we mobilize, to change things,” Carme Forcadell, head of the National Catalan Assembly (ANC), one of the organizers of the event, told Reuters.
‘On November 9 we will vote’
The referendum is scheduled November 9 in Catalonia. “On November 9 we will vote. On November 9 we will win” read the demonstration’s main banner.
Artur Mas, first minister of the relatively prosperous region in Spain’s northeast, said that it was “practically impossible” to stop Catalonia from voting. He also asked the Spanish authorities not to see the rally as “a provocation or a challenge,” but as “a demand to vote.”
Spanish authorities, however, are opposing the independence referendum, saying that the referendum is illegal since the Constitution does not provide such an option initiated by a region, and needs to be blocked.
“I think it’s absurd to pretend that could be so and I think the Spanish government will have to realize that,” Mas said.
“Three hundred years ago, they took away our freedom by force. Now we will get it back by votes,” Ramon Puig, 66, a retired banker, told AFP.


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The attempts to steal this campaign have no levels they will not sink to

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News channels in England full of panicking, worried, imbecile chicken farmers who dreamt up this whole devolution mess, they are seeing their chickens coming home to roost and have no straw, no hen house, no chicken wire, no clue actually....

You see, the Scottish nationalists were not supposed to do what they are doing, it wasn't imagined in any way never mind considered that they would dare do so. Alex Salmond has outwitted these fools at every step and bought this union to an end. But he didn't start it, blair and zanulabour did, Salmond just accepted the gift

Whatever way Scotland votes (and it looks like it will be close) the union is broken, it's a matter of time before it dies. And there is one thing these dangerous bigotted fools never considered when they started devolution.....ignore the biggest country and land mass at your peril.

England was to be broken up into "regions" to nicely fit the EU agenda, and thats still the plan...yet when the dust has settled over this debacle in Scotland there will be a tap on the shoulder from England.

Then the fun will really start.....you seen nothing yet folks

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Even nature has an opinion about the current occupants of Parliament, or it may be their own shadows, you decide

Reflections or shadows?

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