OUT OF MIND
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
Latest topics
» Is it possible to apply positive + in favor Newton III Motion Law as a dynamic system in a motor engine
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptySat Mar 23, 2024 11:33 pm by globalturbo

» Meta 1 Coin Scam Update - Robert Dunlop Arrested
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptySat Mar 23, 2024 12:14 am by RamblerNash

» As We Navigate Debs Passing
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyMon Jan 08, 2024 6:18 pm by Ponee

» 10/7 — Much More Dangerous & Diabolical Than Anyone Knows
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyThu Nov 02, 2023 8:30 pm by KennyL

» Sundays and Deb.....
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptySun Oct 01, 2023 9:11 pm by NanneeRose

» African Official Exposes Bill Gates’ Depopulation Agenda: ‘My Country Is Not Your Laboratory’
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyThu Sep 21, 2023 4:39 am by NanneeRose

» DEBS HEALTH
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptySun Sep 03, 2023 10:23 am by ANENRO

» Attorney Reveals the “Exculpatory” Evidence Jack Smith Possesses that Exonerates President Trump
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyTue Aug 29, 2023 10:48 am by ANENRO

» Update From Site Owner to Members & Guests
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyTue Aug 29, 2023 10:47 am by ANENRO

» New global internet censorship began today
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyMon Aug 21, 2023 9:25 am by NanneeRose

» Alienated from reality
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 4:29 pm by PurpleSkyz

» Why does Russia now believe that Covid-19 was a US-created bioweapon?
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 4:27 pm by PurpleSkyz

»  Man reports history of interaction with seemingly intelligent orbs
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 3:34 pm by PurpleSkyz

» Western reactions to the controversial Benin Bronzes
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 3:29 pm by PurpleSkyz

» India unveils first images from Moon mission
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 3:27 pm by PurpleSkyz

» Scientists achieve nuclear fusion net energy gain for second time
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 3:25 pm by PurpleSkyz

» Putin Signals 5G Ban
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 3:07 pm by PurpleSkyz

» “Texas Student Dies in Car Accident — Discovers Life after Death”
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 3:05 pm by PurpleSkyz

» The hidden history taught by secret societies
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 3:03 pm by PurpleSkyz

» Vaccines and SIDS (Crib Death)
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 3:00 pm by PurpleSkyz

» Sun blasts out highest-energy radiation ever recorded, raising questions for solar physics
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 2:29 pm by PurpleSkyz

» Why you should be eating more porcini mushrooms
Who invented the Electoral College? EmptySun Aug 06, 2023 10:38 am by PurpleSkyz


You are not connected. Please login or register

Who invented the Electoral College?

Go down  Message [Page 1 of 1]

1Who invented the Electoral College? Empty Who invented the Electoral College? Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:32 am

PurpleSkyz

PurpleSkyz
Admin

Who invented the Electoral College?
By Phillip J VanFossen - J.F. Ackerman Professor of Social Studies

Who invented the Electoral College? QPGXXGKvG2W3Y8fgKQMrCf-320-80

A transcript from the Constitutional Convention records the official report creating the Electoral College.
(Image: © U.S. National Archives, CC BY-NC-ND)

The delegates in Philadelphia agreed, in the summer of 1787, that the new country they were creating would not have a king but rather an elected executive. But they did not agree on how to choose that president.
Pennsylvania delegate James Wilson called the problem of picking a president "in truth, one of the most difficult of all we have to decide." Other delegates, when they later recounted the group’s effort, said "this very subject embarrassed them more than any other – that various systems were proposed, discussed, and rejected."

They were at risk of concluding their meetings without finding a way to pick a leader. In fact, this was the very last thing written into the final draft. Had no agreement been reached, the delegates would not have approved the Constitution.
I am a civics educator who has also run Purdue University’s Constitution Day celebration for 15 years, and one lesson I always return to is the degree to which the founders had to compromise in order to ensure ratification. Selecting the president was one of those compromises.
Three approaches were debated during the Constitutional Convention: election by Congress, selection by state legislatures and a popular election – though the right to vote was generally restricted to white, landowning men.


Should Congress pick the president?

Some delegates at the Constitutional Convention thought that letting Congress pick the president would provide a buffer from what Thomas Jefferson referred to as the "well-meaning, but uninformed people" who, in a nation the size of the United States, "could have no knowledge of eminent characters and qualifications and the actual selection decision."
Others were concerned that this approach threatened the separation of powers created in the first three articles of the Constitution: Congress might choose a weak executive to prevent the president from wielding veto power, reducing the effectiveness of one of the system’s checks and balances. In addition, the president might feel indebted to Congress and yield some power back to the legislative branch.
Virginia delegate James Madison was concerned that giving Congress the power to select the president "would render it the executor as well as the maker of laws; and then … tyrannical laws may be made that they may be executed in a tyrannical manner."

Michelle Obama Breaks Down After Her Daughter Confesses This


When Malia and Sasha Obama gave a rare interview, they made a discerning confession about their mom...
Read More
Promoted by maternityweek.com


Who invented the Electoral College? Info-ayl
That view persuaded his fellow Virginian George Mason to reverse his previous support for congressional election of the president and to then conclude that he saw "making the Executive the mere creature of the Legislature as a violation of the fundamental principle of good Government."

Letting state lawmakers choose

Some delegates thought getting states directly involved in picking the leader of the national government was a good approach for the new federal system.
But others, including Alexander Hamilton, worried that states would select a weak executive, to increase their own power. Hamilton also observed that legislators are often slower to move than top leaders might be expected to: "In the legislature, promptitude of decision is oftener an evil than a benefit."
It’s not as pithy as the musical, perhaps, but the point is clear: Don’t trust the state legislatures.

Power to the people?

The final approach debated was that of popular election. Some delegates, like New York delegate Gouverneur Morris, viewed the president as the "guardian of the people," whom the public should elect directly.
The Southern states objected, arguing that they would be disadvantaged in a popular election in proportion to their actual populations because of the large numbers of enslaved people in those states who could not vote. This was eventually resolved – in one of those many compromises – by counting each enslaved person as three-fifths of a free person for the purposes of representation.
George Mason, a delegate from Virginia, shared Jefferson’s skepticism about regular Americans, saying it would be "unnatural to refer the choice of a proper character for chief Magistrate to the people, as it would, to refer a trial of colors to a blind man. The extent of the Country renders it impossible that the people can have the requisite capacity to judge of the respective pretensions of the Candidates."

11 left to make the decision

The delegates appointed a committee of 11 members – one from each state at the Constitutional Convention – to solve this and other knotty problems, which they called the "Grand Committee on Postponed Questions," and charged with resolving "unfinished business, including how to elect the President."
At the beginning, six of the 11 members preferred national popular elections. But they realized they could not get the Constitution ratified with that provision: The Southern states simply would not agree to it.
Between Aug. 31 and Sept. 4, 1787, the committee wrestled with producing an acceptable compromise. The committee’s third report to the Convention proposed the adoption of a system of electors, through which both the people and the states would help choose the president. It's not clear which delegate came up with the idea, which was a partly national and partly federal solution, and which mirrored other structures in the Constitution.

Popularity and protection

Hamilton and the other founders were reassured that with this compromise system, neither public ignorance nor outside influence would affect the choice of a nation’s leader. They believed that the electors would ensure that only a qualified person became president. And they thought the Electoral College would serve as a check on a public who might be easily misled, especially by foreign governments.
[Deep knowledge, daily. Sign up for The Conversation’s newsletter.]
But the original system – in which the winner of the Electoral College would become president and the runner-up became vice president – fell apart almost immediately. By the election of 1800, political parties had arisen. Because electoral votes for president and vice president were not listed on separate ballots, Democratic-Republican running mates Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr tied in the Electoral College, sending the contest to the House of Representatives. The House ultimately chose Jefferson as the third president, leaving Burr as vice president – not John Adams, who had led the opposing Federalist party ticket.
The problem was resolved in 1804 when the 12th Amendment was ratified, allowing the electors to cast separate ballots for president and vice president. It has been that way ever since.

https://www.livescience.com/who-invented-electoral-college.html?utm_source=Selligent&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=9164&utm_content=LLM_Newsletter+&utm_term=3300544&m_i=owCg339SUytZmAICYLXSrA42mMgb5yR5xjOSUycch%2B2cE8xa5wGh_XCMfH_MSIZiJ3cT4lMjfXkYyJZzliY4bsM1a%2BCfWdOiHAKWFwZooL

Thanks to: https://www.livescience.com

Back to top  Message [Page 1 of 1]

Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum